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原帖由 chenchenzi 于 2009-3-22 21:03 发表
原来又是在说其他版本的PES~~我一直在说WII版的PES~~果然跟空气较劲~~

你要能找到wii版的也行啊，防守弱成这样了，让我开开眼界，看看对战达人的视频好吗

觉得是在刻意辩护的自己去深入玩玩再说吧，阴阳怪气的没意思

另外, Wii的PES之所以优秀.....

是因为运用了Wii的特性来重新演示PES系列

" 这才是真正的次世代足球游戏", 这是众多媒体和玩家对PES08 Wii ver的称赞
Konami为我们带来全新操作进化的足球游戏, 为何偏要说到高清机的PES和FIFA去

其实这评分不过是喜感的IGN继续延续其喜感传统而已，大惊小怪的青们又在春日里挥洒了无数的荷尔蒙和肾上腺素。
真是教人激赏。


当年的超雷作波斯猴子3D也能给出8.2的分数，其勇气和喜感都如其评论一般impressive

不久前IGN US给FM 2009打出了2/10的分数，“我真搞不懂为啥会有人玩这个游戏，他们不会去玩WE和FIFA吗？”，如此评论道。
事后FM青集体暴走才让IGN撤下了这欢乐度满点的评论。

都是黑历史了，就不要过分纠结了。

[ 本帖最后由 jump 于 2009-3-22 21:28 编辑 ]

说到波斯王子, 新的很赞, 不过却失去旧作九死一生的特色
不过还是很不错就对了

gs的pes08给了8
09的评分应该很快了
希望别像ign一样没玩就写review

jump贴的那个是2000年左右出的3D打雷波斯王子

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原帖由 lsn 于 2009-3-22 21:15 发表
说到波斯王子, 新的很赞, 不过却失去旧作九死一生的特色
不过还是很不错就对了

那个不是去年的猴子，是游戏史上最雷作之一的波斯王子3d

要我说的话，WE2009各个媒体的评分偏低可以理解为对本系列进入次世代后原地踏步的怨念。
wii版的WE2009在评分上倒是占了“异质”的便宜。画面烂就烂吧，对战弱就弱吧，反正WE正统续作也不咋好玩，拿个双截棍点来点去倒算是有了点新的玩法。越是自我标榜“客观”的评论人员越容易因为这些“游戏性”上的“创新”而给高分。
不过wii版的评分再高，真正玩WE的玩家也是不会去碰的。

我碰了，而且觉得挺好玩的，比次世代的WE强，我是不是就不算真正玩WE的玩家？

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原帖由 jump 于 2009-3-22 21:13 发表
其实这评分不过是喜感的IGN继续延续其喜感传统而已

找到原文了，ign太神了，这篇文章应该供在游戏评论史的最高峰来膜拜    

This game gets a red card, and possibly a lifetime ban.
ign

By: Avi Burk

What sports fan doesn't want to take control of his favorite team and guide it to a championship, or, better yet, a long string of championships? Well, if it means playing Worldwide Soccer Manager, you can count me in that number.

Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009 gives gamers the chance to manage and coach 5,000 soccer teams from 50 countries around the globe, giving them the chance to manage every aspect of their team's roster, field questions from reporters at their team's press conferences, and coach their teams in real time as each simulated game unfolds. What it doesn't do, more importantly, is provide any compelling reason to keep "playing."

Although the game's database of more than 350,000 real-life soccer players is certainly impressive, only the most diehard fans of the sport would be able to appreciate having such a massive pool of talent to sift through, and the casual fan would almost certainly find the task overwhelming – I did.

The game's incredibly complex menu system is very difficult to navigate, even with the on-screen help box directing you through the process. In short, this game is extremely difficult to simply pick up and play. If you're unfamiliar with the franchise expect to spend a significant amount of time simply trying to figure out how to navigate the menus.

Worldwide Soccer Manager's presentation problems don't end there though, once you finally make it to your team's first game you'll find that the player renderings and animations are awful, and the stadiums you play in lack any kind of personality or detail. Each field is bordered by fences and what appear to be unfinished stands, which don't have any fans in them. And, when the ball is kicked off of the pitch, it passes smoothly through the surrounding fences, right through the stands, and disappears from view only to return to the field in the same fashion, appearing magically from the stands and passing through the fences (and goals) on its way back into play.

Then there's the sound, or lack thereof. There is no soundtrack that plays while you work in the game's menus, which you'll spend the vast majority of your time in this game doing. There is no audio narration to accompany your participation in press conferences, even though your options for how to respond to each question is incredibly limited. There is no audio commentary to accompany the action in the simulated game's you watch/coach. In fact, the only sound we found in the entire game was the tones of fans cheering as each simulated game played out – which only detracts from the game's feel of authenticity seeing as there are no fans rendered in the stands.

As far as traditional gameplay goes, there really isn't any in Worldwide Soccer Manager 2009. Apart from managing your roster and coaching your team, there really isn't anything to do at all. So, unless you really enjoy clicking on menu buttons, you'll find your interaction with this game extremely disappointing.

However, if you're a big footie fan and big fan of sports simulation, you'll be extremely impressed with the depth of Worldwide Soccer Manager, which allows you to control just about every facet of your team and draw from a player pool that is simply mindboggling.

Closing Comments
This game obviously aims to provide the deepest soccer simulation experience possible for the sport’s most passionate and informed fans, but it offers little to nothing that would appeal to a casual fan of the sport or to the average videogame enthusiast. The menus are complex and difficult to navigate, graphics are terrible, the sound is non-existent and there is no traditional gameplay to speak of. I couldn’t imagine why anybody would prefer Worldwide Soccer Manager to FIFA 09 or Pro Evolution Soccer 2009.

©2008-12-05, IGN Entertainment, Inc. All Rights Reserved

神了啊，真是神了啊

虽然观点和我的观点一样，但是结论可完全是两样——我只是觉得，以我的智商和对世界足球的了解程度，还不足以让我能玩得开心 能看到评论家对自己的智商这么有信心，真是让我内牛满面。。

说起来，wii这版的实况，扑点球的时候是不是模仿守门员两手摆动那样扑的？

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原帖由 clond 于 2009-3-22 21:22 发表


那个不是去年的猴子，是游戏史上最雷作之一的波斯王子3d

当然知道, 操作感超渣的

只是说到POP, 突然有点想重玩GC的那两作

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原帖由 jump 于 2009-3-22 21:27 发表
要我说的话，WE2009各个媒体的评分偏低可以理解为对本系列进入次世代后原地踏步的怨念。
wii版的WE2009在评分上倒是占了“异质”的便宜。画面烂就烂吧，对战弱就弱吧，反正WE正统续作也不咋好玩，拿个双截棍点来点去 ...

你就可以这样确定?
我本身也是玩开WE系列的, 不过三大主机上我选择等待Wii版的PES09
高清的就入手了FIFA09, PES09玩了DEMO, 选择放弃

PES08 Wii世界销量也有20w左右, 莫非20w都是买回家摆的吗==