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白嫖王换过衣服吗?


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原帖由 alleni3 于 2020-2-5 04:15 发表



比比安全和对用户的信息保护,安卓能做到吗?
云上跪州?做不到,做不到。



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原帖由 舟易行 于 2020-2-10 09:03 发表
posted by wap, platform: 小米
白嫖王换过衣服吗?
这一定是光速吟唱完毕后的服装


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posted by wap, platform: Samsung
井底之蛙
镜头有油

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苹果最大的用处是墙内墙外体验差异不算太大。自从我的google框架出问题后,安卓和android就是2个世界了

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原帖由 @amm  于 2020-2-8 02:35 AM 发表
两个市场上
现行
占有率
用户数
如何不能互相秒杀另一个的话
就吹一个上天,不管是吹哪个
有病程度是一样的
这个东西,谁都是二选一的在用,我不可能既用Chrome又用Safari,既用Keep又用Notes,既用Google Docs又用macOS下的Word或者Pages,我全部的文档和信息肯定都是二选其一并且尽量都固定在一个生态下的;对于最终用户来说,他的最终选择就是最优解,落选者就是被吊打者,一个智力正常且两者都体验过和对比过并最终做出选择的人,得出一个吊打另一个的结论我觉得是很正常的——但是确实是很多苹果爱好者没试验过谷歌的那一套东西,我以前就是这种人,以为什么都是苹果的最好,也就是楼主说的那一类。我妹在美国念博士,她的所有文章和资料都在Google里,我问了下,她同学大部分也都是如此,所以我认为至少在这个人群里,Google吊打苹果没什么问题。我觉得,就说做软件,Google比苹果做得好这个事情没有那么难获得认同吧?

本帖最后由 grammyliu 于 2020-2-12 10:13 通过手机版编辑

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Quora有个答案,对比三家的生态的:


Microsoft has by far the best ecosystem, in the sense that it covers the broadest range of applications from home games consoles and HoloLens to cloud server farms. You may not like every bit of it, but there is almost nothing that you cannot do with it.

Apple’s ecosystem is very small in comparison, and most of it could be replaced by part of the Microsoft ecosystem.

Google’s ecosystem is larger, but probably every part of it could be replaced by part of the Microsoft ecosystem.

Based on one of my earlier answers, this is how the three ecosystems work….

Apple makes most of its money from selling devices that work at the edge — iPhones, iPads, Macs etc — and doesn’t focus on the cloud, except as an enabler. Everything it does is designed to sell more devices.

Google makes most of its money from selling advertising alongside cloud services — search, Gmail, Google Apps etc — and it wants all your data in the cloud. Devices at the edge are just enablers.

Microsoft’s strategy is “intelligent cloud, intelligent edge”. It wants smart devices — including Macs, iPhones, Android phones etc — connected to its smart services and Azure cloud. However, if you want to do everything in house, with your own PCs and servers, or build your own cloud with Azure Stack, Microsoft supports that too.

To sum up, Apple’s ecosystem is largely Apple device-centric, while Google’s ecosystem is largely cloud-centric. Microsoft’s ecosystem aims to cover both devices and clouds, including non-Microsoft operating systems and devices.

When it comes to the practical effects, Apple doesn’t really support anything that isn’t Apple, apart from an ancient offering of iTunes for Windows. (Apple neeeded Windows users to buy iPods.) Google doesn’t really support anything that isn’t Google.

Microsoft, in contrast, supports Apple’s ecosystem with Office, Office 365 and iOS apps. Microsoft supports Google Chrome and Apple’s Safari for online use. It also supports Linux inside Windows 10, and it supports Linux on Azure. It supports Linux and Apple programming in Visual Studio, including Mono for creating iOS apps.

The weakness in Microsoft’s ecosystem is the lack of a smartphone platform, but it has turned this into a strength. There are dozens of Microsoft apps for both Android and iOS. With Microsoft Launcher, an Android phone basically becomes a Windows phone.

If you limited yourself to Apple’s ecosystem, you’d have to give up most of the world’s devices and all the most successful business software and services.

If you limited yourself to Google’s ecosystem, you’d have to give up almost all of the on-premise software including Microsoft Office, Windows Server and major programs such as Exchange, SQL Server, Sharepoint and so on. You’d also have to give up Adobe CS and countless Windows applications.

If you use Microsoft’s ecosystem, you don’t really have to give anything up, except maybe Google’s Cloud Platform and AWS. Also, there isn’t a version of Office for Linux desktops, partly because it’s not a commercial proposition, but the online version works fine.

The whole point of Microsoft’s ecosystem is that it’s inclusive, not exclusive. It supports Macs and iOS devices, and Android devices, and everything online. Adobe CS and Firefox and millions of third-party Windows programs are all part of the Microsoft ecosystem. So, now, are LinkedIn and GitHub.

It’s interesting that both Apple and Google make most of their money by selling things directly to consumers and/or advertisers. Historically, Microsoft has made most of its money though indirect sales, through partnerships.

Most people don’t buy Windows from Microsoft, they buy it from a PC maker. Most people didn’t buy Office from Microsoft, they bought it from a retailer. Most people didn’t buy Exchange email from Microsoft, they bought it from a partner or service provider. For decades, Microsoft only made money when somebody else made money, and this colored its whole ecosystem approach.

Today, that’s changing with direct sales of Offce 365 and Azure, and the launch of the Surface line, where Microsoft is competing against its own customers. But, so far, the broad ecosystem itself has not changed. Indeed, under Nadella, it’s getting broader, not narrower.

The ultimate aim is that Microsoft will still have the best ecosystem, even if 1.5 billion people stopped using Windows (which they won’t). Neither Apple nor Google could survive a similar seismic shift.

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原帖由 @舟易行  于 2020-2-10 09:03 AM 发表
白嫖王换过衣服吗?
他一般都穿自己网店卖的衣服,我都有点想买了,想想自己宅到这种程度也够可怕的了

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原帖由 ztxzhang518 于 2020-2-8 17:49 发表
因为傻逼火狐越做越烂~~~但旧版一直无敌的存在
对,好像是FF2.0时代,扩展的丰富程度不是现在的Chrome能比了,奈何FF自己作死

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原帖由 solbadguy 于 2020-2-6 19:33 发表
posted by wap, platform: Samsung
求求你别吹了ff了。我用ff十年了,版本更新插件不能用,cookie永远不保存,你不知道它更新了什么卵但是它永远在更新中,更新比flash还勤快!

自从我去年换上Chrome,一切都安静 ...
已经换chromium edge了 chrome再见

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原帖由 @grammyliu  于 2020-2-12 10:11 发表
这个东西,谁都是二选一的在用,我不可能既用Chrome又用Safari,既用Keep又用Notes,既用Google Docs又用macOS下的Word或者Pages,我全部的文档和信息肯定都是二选其一并且尽量都固定在一个生态下的;对于最终用户来说,他的最终选择就是最优解,落选者就是被吊打者,一个智力正常且两者都体验过和对比过并最终做出选择的人,得出一个吊打另一个的结论我觉得是很正常的——但是确实是很多苹果爱好者没试验过谷歌的那一套东西,我以前就是这种人,以为什么都是苹果的最好,也就是楼主说的那一类。我妹在美国念博士,她的所有文章和资料都在Google里,我问了下,她同学大部分也都是如此,所以我认为至少在这个人群里,Google吊打苹果没什么问题。我觉得,就说做软件,Google比苹果做得好这个事情没有那么难获得认同吧?

本帖最后由 grammyliu 于 2020212 10:13 通过手机版编辑
1,你觉得谷歌吊打苹果才买的谷歌是吧,所以买苹果的人也是因为觉得谷歌吊打苹果所以买苹果?疯了么这是!
2,我们公司17个人,1个人用安卓,虽然我觉得安卓没得airdrop就直接抬出场外了,但是我不会去反复强调苹果吊打安卓,因为毕竟大把人在用安卓,只是我的使用习惯和偏好让我觉得苹果吊打安卓,我喜欢吃萝卜,所以萝卜吊打青菜
3,不要我即是世界,什么叫没尝试过谷歌,我们公司做很多项目,要做安卓上的适配的,测试机不少,高端低端都有,我真搞不懂谷歌吊打苹果,你不承认就是没用过,这什么逻辑,这和那国青虚片不是一个套路么

总结下:
有个词叫opinion,你觉得谷歌吊打苹果就是opinion
还有个词叫fact,很多人不同意你并身体力行的买苹果这叫fact
当然你还有个opinion,觉得买苹果的都是没用过谷歌没感受到谷歌好的

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posted by wap, platform: iPhone
墙外的谷歌一样是个弱鸡
墙外商店阿里百度一样流氓
不给隐私权限
你梦里可以运行
谷歌没有能力控制软硬件高效的协同工作
就算谷歌有能力
没有绝对的集权
第三方为什么要按你的要求做?
厂商自治给不了
用户统一良好的用户体验
谷歌的安全隐私?
全靠美国军方棱镜门和自己广告业务
谷歌唯一的优点也是苹果的天然缺陷
给用户和第三方自由

本帖最后由 aszx21 于 2020-4-12 07:26 通过手机版编辑

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posted by wap, platform: Android
iOS 安卓 windwos10 macOS

这四个我日常都用,能给分出高低贵贱你们也真够牛逼的

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posted by wap, platform: Samsung
检查了一下手头的装备,除了EarPods和华强北AirPods,没有其他苹果设备了!既然果粉生活那么开心,就不要打扰他们了

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我支持苹果

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