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洛克人呢…
我觉得有平台的卷轴都可以算act

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原帖由 firesun 于 2011-7-4 22:14 发表
ls这个有些太绝对了吧，popcap的Heaven Weapon玩过么（一时想不到更多的例子了，或者联合大作战的吉普一方？），侧视视角，控制地面单位攻击上方和前后方的敌人，只能左右移动而已。不过第二点很赞成。

偶发特例当然是有的，或许应该描述成：以摇杆/手柄方向键操作自机在版面内做八方向移动（绝大部分）或四方向移动（比如坦克大战）或仅左右向移动（比如大/小蜜蜂，太空侵略者。仅上下向移动的有木有？反正我是没见过...）是自机在版面中位置产生主动变化的唯一途径。

至于你举的这个游戏我没还真玩过，不过《联合大作战》经你这么一提醒我倒觉得还真是挺难弄，毫无疑问如果站在直升机的角度看这是个彻头彻尾的横版STG，可是若站在吉普的角度看，由于考虑到多出了个跳跃键，且吉普车时常需要通过这个跳跃键来避弹或越过障碍（比如对直升机人畜无害的地雷）等等，若仔细想想其实在性质上和《魂斗罗》《洛克人》等也没什么差别，那么这个《联合大作战》究竟是该算STG还是ACT？有些混乱...（查了下，当初TECMO和《GAMEST》的官方分类都认做是STG，那就算是STG吧...）

另外还有就是楼主说的《魂斗罗》这一类了，这类侧视角的动作射击游戏通常具备跳跃键，我个人觉得应该是ACT，而那类俯视角全方位移动射击的动作射击游戏如《战场之狼》《古巴战士》等通常不具备跳跃键，我个人觉得应该是STG...可是街机/FC版的《超级魂斗罗》的奇/偶数版面分别呈现这两种形态，那又该如何划分？而SFC版的《魂斗罗精神》在偶数俯视角版面中加入了匍匐操作键以避弹，MVS基板后期的SNK子厂作品《ShockTroopers1&2》(突击奇兵）虽是俯视角全方位动作射击，却又加入了跳跃键，因此这几个ACT的成份就又大了一些...

界定这类游戏通常不是很容易做到那么清晰，因此通常我们口中所称的STG还是指狭义STG（自机在绝大部分作品中呈飞行状态的这类，纵版代表《雷电》横版代表《沙罗曼蛇》）比较不会产生歧义。

Gamefaqs上的分类把射击游戏统统归到动作游戏的大类里面，魂斗罗的分类在Action >> Shooter 下面，而交叉火力（CrossFire D商交脱狱2）则归为Action >> Platformer。大概因为后者的武器不止是枪。


Action
Action >> Beat-'Em-Up
Action >> Fighting
Action >> Fighting >> 2D
Action >> Fighting >> 3D
Action >> Fighting >> Wrestling
Action >> Flight
Action >> General
Action >> Platformer
Action >> Platformer >> 2D
Action >> Platformer >> 3D
Action >> Shooter
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Fantasy
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Historic
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Modern
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Sci-Fi
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Tactical
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Tactical >> Historic
Action >> Shooter >> First-Person >> Tactical >> Modern
Action >> Shooter >> Light Gun
Action >> Shooter >> Rail
Action >> Shooter >> Scrolling
Action >> Shooter >> Static
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Fantasy
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Historic
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Modern
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Sci-Fi
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Tactical
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Tactical >> Historic
Action >> Shooter >> Third-Person >> Tactical >> Modern
Action Adventure
Action Adventure >> Fantasy
Action Adventure >> Historic
Action Adventure >> Horror
Action Adventure >> Modern
Action Adventure >> Sci-Fi
Adventure
Adventure >> First-Person
Adventure >> First-Person >> Fantasy
Adventure >> First-Person >> Modern
Adventure >> First-Person >> Sci-Fi
Adventure >> General
Adventure >> Interactive Movie
Adventure >> Text
Adventure >> Third-Person
Adventure >> Third-Person >> Fantasy
Adventure >> Third-Person >> Modern
Adventure >> Third-Person >> Sci-Fi
Driving
Driving >> Car Combat
Driving >> Demolition Derby
Driving >> General
Driving >> Mission-based
Driving >> Racing
Driving >> Racing >> Arcade
Driving >> Racing >> Drag
Driving >> Racing >> Formula One
Driving >> Racing >> Futuristic
Driving >> Racing >> GT / Street
Driving >> Racing >> Kart
Driving >> Racing >> Motorcycle
Driving >> Racing >> Motorcycle >> Motocross
Driving >> Racing >> Motorcycle >> Street
Driving >> Racing >> On-foot
Driving >> Racing >> Other
Driving >> Racing >> Rally / Offroad
Driving >> Racing >> Snow / Water
Driving >> Racing >> Stock Car
Driving >> Racing >> Truck
Hardware
Hardware >> Console
Hardware >> General
Miscellaneous
Miscellaneous >> Board Games
Miscellaneous >> Card Battle
Miscellaneous >> Compilation
Miscellaneous >> Demo Disc
Miscellaneous >> Edutainment
Miscellaneous >> General
Miscellaneous >> Music Maker
Miscellaneous >> Parlor
Miscellaneous >> Parlor >> Billiards
Miscellaneous >> Parlor >> Gambling
Miscellaneous >> Parlor >> Pinball
Miscellaneous >> Party
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> Action
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> General
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> Hidden Object
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> Logic
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> Matching
Miscellaneous >> Puzzle >> Stacking
Miscellaneous >> Rhythm
Miscellaneous >> Rhythm >> Dancing
Miscellaneous >> Rhythm >> Music
Miscellaneous >> Trivia / Game Show
Miscellaneous >> Videos
Miscellaneous >> Virtual Life
Miscellaneous >> Web Browser
Role-Playing
Role-Playing >> Action RPG
Role-Playing >> Console-style RPG
Role-Playing >> First-Person
Role-Playing >> General
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer Online
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer Online >> Fantasy
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer Online >> Historic
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer Online >> Modern
Role-Playing >> Massively Multiplayer Online >> Sci-Fi
Role-Playing >> PC-style RPG
Role-Playing >> Third-Person
Simulation
Simulation >> Flight
Simulation >> Flight >> Civilian Plane
Simulation >> Flight >> Helicopter
Simulation >> Flight >> Modern Jet
Simulation >> Flight >> Old Jet
Simulation >> Flight >> WWI
Simulation >> Flight >> WWII
Simulation >> General
Simulation >> Sci-Fi
Simulation >> Sci-Fi >> Futuristic Jet
Simulation >> Sci-Fi >> Futuristic Sub
Simulation >> Sci-Fi >> Large Spaceship
Simulation >> Sci-Fi >> Mech
Simulation >> Sci-Fi >> Small Spaceship
Simulation >> Ship
Simulation >> Submarine
Simulation >> Tank
Simulation >> Train
Sports
Sports >> Alternative
Sports >> Alternative >> Biking
Sports >> Alternative >> Bowling
Sports >> Alternative >> Cricket
Sports >> Alternative >> Futuristic
Sports >> Alternative >> Horse Racing
Sports >> Alternative >> Other
Sports >> Alternative >> Rugby
Sports >> Alternative >> Skateboarding
Sports >> Alternative >> Skating
Sports >> Alternative >> Skiing
Sports >> Alternative >> Snowboarding
Sports >> Alternative >> Surfing
Sports >> Alternative >> Wakeboarding
Sports >> General
Sports >> Nature
Sports >> Nature >> Fishing
Sports >> Nature >> Hunting
Sports >> Olympic Sports
Sports >> Traditional
Sports >> Traditional >> Baseball
Sports >> Traditional >> Baseball >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Baseball >> Management
Sports >> Traditional >> Baseball >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Basketball
Sports >> Traditional >> Basketball >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Basketball >> Management
Sports >> Traditional >> Basketball >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Boxing
Sports >> Traditional >> Football
Sports >> Traditional >> Football >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Football >> Management
Sports >> Traditional >> Football >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Golf
Sports >> Traditional >> Golf >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Golf >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Ice Hockey
Sports >> Traditional >> Ice Hockey >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Ice Hockey >> Management
Sports >> Traditional >> Ice Hockey >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Soccer
Sports >> Traditional >> Soccer >> Arcade
Sports >> Traditional >> Soccer >> Management
Sports >> Traditional >> Soccer >> Sim
Sports >> Traditional >> Tennis
Sports >> Traditional >> Volleyball
Strategy
Strategy >> Breeding/Constructing
Strategy >> City Building
Strategy >> City Building >> Historic
Strategy >> City Building >> Modern
Strategy >> General
Strategy >> Real-Time
Strategy >> Real-Time >> Fantasy
Strategy >> Real-Time >> Historic
Strategy >> Real-Time >> Military
Strategy >> Real-Time >> Modern
Strategy >> Real-Time >> Sci-Fi
Strategy >> Turn-Based
Strategy >> Turn-Based >> Fantasy
Strategy >> Turn-Based >> Historic
Strategy >> Turn-Based >> Modern
Strategy >> Turn-Based >> Sci-Fi
Strategy >> Tycoon
Strategy >> Wargame
Strategy >> Wargame >> Real-Time
Strategy >> Wargame >> Turn-Based

[ 本帖最后由 utunnels 于 2011-7-5 11:16 编辑 ]

UPL的Vandyke怎么定义？

纵版强制移动、8方向移动、8方向发射。主角拥有短剑、火弹、投斧等范围不一的各种武器，有增加HP的食物和全屏范围的保险，而且在这种视角下居然还有跳跃。这是个ACT还是STG？

横向卷轴act

这个没啥好纠结的，FC上某个射击游戏还自称角色扮演呢。:D :D :D

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原帖由 少先队员 于 2011-7-4 18:46 发表


用复合型的话
那很多游戏的概念就模糊了
个人觉得复合型里面，还是一开始的A·RPG定义的比较好
之后的各种五花八门的复合也太笼统了

首先魂斗罗有跳跃，而且跳跃占的比重很高，还有就是看是否强制卷轴
应该是ACT

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原帖由 leezhengyu 于 2011-7-4 18:35 发表
看有没有平台跳跃。

用我这种界定最简单。有跳悬崖断壁的都应该归ACT，尤其从sfc魂斗罗精神开始，主角又能攀援又能爬杆行进的，铁定算ACT了。

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原帖由 任天鼠 于 2011-7-5 20:39 发表


首先魂斗罗有跳跃，而且跳跃占的比重很高，还有就是看是否强制卷轴
应该是ACT

强制卷轴和无卷轴绝对不是必要条件，FANTASY ZONE就是最典型的例子

有跳跃，横移，翻滚这类利用位移躲避子弹或是辅助瞄准的都该算ACT了

魂斗罗绝对算act啊，射击算它的攻击表现方式。

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动作射击

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原帖由 saiya0 于 2011-7-5 11:33 发表
UPL的Vandyke怎么定义？

纵版强制移动、8方向移动、8方向发射。主角拥有短剑、火弹、投斧等范围不一的各种武器，有增加HP的食物和全屏范围的保险，而且在这种视角下居然还有跳跃。这是个ACT还是STG？

印象里这游戏不是强制卷轴的啊，很明显这是个非常典型的ACT~~~