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[新闻] 阿伦醒醒关于分辨率的官方回复

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关于51大大的话我想深入讨论一下.因为他说的无论视频多大都能数出原生分辨率并被天师拿出来当标枪击杀众软,我想他本人的意思是针对这一个游戏的特殊情况来说的.
就拿手头的960p视频做例子来说事:比如视频是960p,但是观看的时候发现并非如正常的960p视频那样清晰,通过数多边形边缘,根据锯齿的比例发现,这视频经过upscaling,有效的像素是原来的4/5(假设),但是,他忽略了最重要的一个因素,因为的并不知道视频是通过何种分辨率压缩来的.如果在360的输出分辨率中选1920*1080,那么capture出来的画面应该是通过upscale芯片输出的1080p的图象.这段960的视频如果是通过1080p采集然后缩放的,根据图象大小改变锯齿比例不改变的说法,那么原生分辨率就应该是1920*4/5=1536.果在360的输出分辨率中选1280*720,输出采集到720p再压缩到960,那么原生分辨率就是1280*4/5=1024,由于源不确定,原生分辨率似乎也不确定.
但alan wake 特殊就特殊在UI是后期合成的,给定型为720p原生密度了,51大大也是数出了画面的几何分辨率是HUD分辨率的3/4,来确定画面是960*540的原生分辨率.所以才有了"无论视频大小如何,都数的出原生分辨率"的说法,而这一说法在普通情况下是不成立的,天师根本就没搞懂.


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原帖由 爱游戏 于 2010-4-20 14:26 发表
回暴皮:
关于51大大的话我想深入讨论一下.因为他说的无论视频多大都能数出原生分辨率并被天师拿出来当标枪击杀众软,我想他本人的意思是针对这一个游戏的特殊情况来说的.
就拿手头的960p视频做例子来说事:比如视频是 ...
所谓的无论多大应该是指只要知道原始捕捉的分辨率,之后不管怎么resize都不再影响了。
一个540P的锯齿,在输出540p的时候占一像素宽度,720P的时候占4/3像素宽度,到1080P的时候占16/9像素宽度
只要知道原始捕捉的大小然后找出比例就ok,这次视频里面UI符合720的像素密度之所以是铁证,就在于其证明了原始捕捉的分辨率。



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分辨率真的那么重要吗?
就像被说成画面很渣的大叔5,我觉得还不错啊。
关键是自己玩得开心就好。
大叔5我买了限定版,阿兰也是要限定入手的。
我买游戏只是因为喜欢,不是看分辨率高低。
当然,要是因为这两个游戏某群体心爱的主机上没有,而在这泛酸,就没意思了。


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原帖由 爱游戏 于 2010-4-20 14:26 发表
回暴皮:
关于51大大的话我想深入讨论一下.因为他说的无论视频多大都能数出原生分辨率并被天师拿出来当标枪击杀众软,我想他本人的意思是针对这一个游戏的特殊情况来说的.
就拿手头的960p视频做例子来说事:比如视频是 ...
应该不是这么回事。数出来的有效像素的个数是不变的,有效像素的比例是会变的。如果1080P下数出来是2/3,720p下就不会是2/3而是1:1。
Quaz51牛在可以排除AA,拉伸等干扰,辨认有效像素。

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原帖由 west2046 于 2010-4-20 12:40 发表

GT5 DEMO呢?
Playstation 3

50 Cent = 1280x720 (blur filter)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (QAA)
Aliens Vs Predator =
Alone in the Dark = 1120x630 (no AA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (no AA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (QAA)
Assassin's Creed 2 = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x720 (QAA) -> 1080 mode.
Avatar = 1280x692 (QAA, black borders)
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bayonetta = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 680p (no AA, blur filter pre-patch)
Bioshock 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Blacksite: Area 51 = 1280x720 (no AA)
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger = 1280x720 (QAA background, no AA characters )
Bourne Conspiracy, The (demo) = 1280x720 (no AA)
Brutal Legend = 1152x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 (screenshot) ~1088x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood = 1152x648 (4x2 custom edge AA)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (QAA), 1920x1080 (QAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1024x720 (QAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conan (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720 (no AA) or 960x1080
Dante's Inferno = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dark Sector = 1152x640 (no AA)
Darksiders = 1152x648 (no AA)
Darkness, The (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Def Jam Icon (screenshot) = 1152x648 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal)
Dirt = 1280x720 (QAA)
Dirt 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Dragon Age: Origins = 1280x720 (AA ?)
Dynasty Warriors 6 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1280x720 (no AA)
End of Eternity/Resonance of Fate = 1088x720 (2xAA)
End War = 1280x720 (2xAA)
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (QAA), 960x1080
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer = 1280x720 (no AA)
Far Cry 2 = 1274x692 (QAA, black borders)
Fifa 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Fifa 2010 = 1280x720 (QAA) on 720p window)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Fight Night Round 4 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Final Fantasy XIII = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Full Auto 2 (demo) = 1920x1080 (4x AA)
Fracture = 1152x648 (no AA)
Ghostbusters = 960x540 (QAA, pre-patch), 1024x576 (2xAA, post-patch)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720
G.I. Joe: The Rise of the Cobra = 1280x720 (QAA)
Godfather II = 1200x720 (blur filter)
God of War III = 1280x720 (MLAA)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (no AA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1152x640 (no AA)
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue = 1080p mode is 1280x1080 (2xAA) in-game while the garage/pit/showrooms are 1920x1080 with no AA. 720p mode is 1280x720 (4xAA)
Gran Turismo 5 =
Guitar Hero 3 = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1040x585 (no AA)
Guitar Hero 5 = 1024x576 (no AA)
HAWX = 1280x720 (no AA, horizontal blur)
Haze (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Heavenly Sword = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Heavy Rain = 1280x720 (2xAA)
IL2 Sturmovik = 1280x720 (QAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Jericho (demo) = 996x560 (2x AA)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (QAA)
Killzone 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lair = 800x1080 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to produce 1600x1080 for further scaling
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (no AA, slight blur filter)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (no AA), 960x1080 (no AA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 640p (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (temporal 2xAA)
Lost Planet 2 =
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
MAG = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance = 1280x720 & 1920x1080 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no AA)
Metal Gear Online = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot = 1024x768 (2xAA, temporal)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 960x720 (QAA)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (no AA)
MK vs DC = 1040x624 (QAA)
MLB08: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) - The rendering window is adjustable down to 576p without upscaling to 720p i.e. the frame has black borders
MLB09: The Show = 1280x720 (2xAA) or 1920x1080 (no AA)
Motorstorm = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV: Untamed = 1024x576 (no AA)
MX vs ATV: Reflex = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA07 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA08 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Street Home court (screenshot) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Need For Speed: Pro Street = 1280x720 (QAA)
Need For Speed: Shift = 1280x720 (QAA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (QAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (no AA, poor framerate)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma = 1280x720 (no AA, has weird scaling to support 1080p)
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma 2 = 1280x718 (dynamic 2xMSAA, black borders)
Operation Flashpoint 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Orange Box, The = 1280x720 (QAA or full screen blur...)
Overlord = 1280x720 (no AA)
Overlord II = 1280x720 (no AA)
Pirates des Caraibes (screenshot) = 768x1080 (no AA), 960x720 en mode 720p
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, no AA cut-scenes)
Prototype = 1120x640 (QAA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (no AA)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ratchet & Clank: Tools of Destruction = 960x704 (2xAA, AA samples used to reconstruct 720p)
Ratchet & Clank: A Crank in Time = 960x704 (2xAA, AA samples used to reconstruct 720p)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (no AA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-QAA)
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)
Resistance 2 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (no AA)
Rock Band = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Rock Band 2 = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Rock Band: The Beatles = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Ryu Ga Gotoku 3 = 1024x768 (no AA)
Saboteur = 1280x720 (edge detect)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1280x720 when sub-HD output selected, 1920x1080 for any HD output (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (QAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (no AA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha blend)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (QAA, 30fps)
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1024x576 (no AA)
Simpsons, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (no AA)
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (blur filter)
Soul Calibur IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1280x576 in 1080p mode
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (no AA)
Star Ocean 4: The Last Hope = 1024x720 (2xAA, in field), ~930x512 (2xAA, in battle)
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (no AA), 1120x630 (no AA, in up-close character view)
Supercar Challenge = 960x1080 (no AA)
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 (2xMSAA w/o motion blur, no AA w/motion blur)
Terminator: Salvation = 1152x648 (blur filter)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1280x720 (QAA)
Tony Hawk's Project 8 = 1280x720
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground (demo) = 1024x576 (no AA)
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (QAA)
Transformers = 960x1080 (no AA)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen = 1120x720 (blur filter)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (no AA)
UFC 2009: Undisputed = 1280x720 (no AA in-game, 4xAA cutscenes)
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Uncharted 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (no AA)
Viking: Battle for Asgard = 960x720 (2xAA) - AA buffers are merged to a 1920x720 framebuffer, which is then downscaled to 1280x720
Virtua Fighter 5 = 1024x1024 (no AA)
1024x768 en mode 1080p
Virtua Tennis 3 = 1920x1080 (2x AA)
Virtua Tennis 2009 = 1280x720 (QAA)
WWE 08 = ? 640x720 ? (2x AA) - les edges ont l'aparence du 1280x720 mais d'apres certain artefact il semble que ce soit le resultat de la fusion de 2 buffers MSAA 640x720
translation StefanS: "The edges give the impression of being 1280x720p, but because of a certain artifact it seems that it is the result of the fusion of 2 MSAA buffers of resolution 640x720"
WALL E = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (no AA)
Wolfenstein = 1280x720 (no AA)
World Series Of Poker 2008 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (no AA)

demo部分IGN评测

2009年12月17号-已经等了很久了,GT5终于逼近我们了。当我们在ps3上短暂的感受了GT5序章时就知道,GT5最终版将远不止如此。从车损到更好的视觉效果到完全从新制作的驾驶物理引擎,我们将看到的是一个全新的GT5。

    我们现在可以通过全世界范围内最新发布的,免费的GT5 demo时间挑战赛尝个鲜儿。车损和最炫的视觉效果没有包括在这个demo中,但是时间挑战赛demo可以让我们尝试最新的驾驶物理引擎。梦幻般的处理效果!

    不像序章中光滑如丝般的效果,最新的demo看起来很粗糙。用方向盘玩儿,轮胎瞬间的撞击和颠簸还有虚拟驾驶感不太理想。不像NFS shift那么明显,但是操控感的确很好,远远超过之前任何一作。

    最牛逼的部分是轮胎和路面的路感。尼桑370Z普通版和改装版(在demo中只有这两种可以选),游戏方向盘输出的冲刺和转向回馈是前作中从没有过的。如果你在高速中有点儿转向过度,然后通过方向盘做一个轻微的调整,将不仅能看到并且清晰的感受到汽车回馈重量的变化,然后再次抓住路面。值得注意的是,这将使你在驾驶中多考虑一种特性,每次驾驶都是独特的,太棒了!

    转向控制很灵敏,但是恰到好处。平滑但是更长时间的转向调整,被更快的方向盘反应所取代。可以使你更刻苦钻研转弯,你可以故意转向过度,让甩尾变得更容易。

    demo版只设有专业驾驶级。因此在最终发售版中可能会设置标准的驾驶模式,让玩家熟悉这些新特性和更高的转向技巧。说实话,我觉得没什么必要。在前作中,专业模式是更高的挑战,更加真实。就我个人而言,我觉专业级比标准级更有意思。反正不管怎么样,我肯定是玩儿专业级去享受挑战的乐趣。

    在画面方面,这个demo肯定不是一些人期待的典范。可能是因为画面相对某些游戏而言较为平淡,没有弄一大堆路边风景和建筑去炫耀光影系统。反正除了车,就没啥可看的了。

    这不是重点,反正我玩儿着感觉很好。这个物理模型对于不同的车的影响,还需要更长时间对更多车的考察才能确定。就目前而言,已经超越前作了!

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Xbox 360

50 Cent = 1280x720 (no AA)
Afro Samurai = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Alan Wake =
Aliens Vs Predator =
Alone in the Dark = 1040x600 (2xAA)
Army of Two = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Assassin's Creed 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Avatar = 1280x696 (2xAA, black borders)
Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts = 1280x720 (2xAA)
BlazBlue: Calamity Trigger = 1280x720 (2xAA background, no AA characters )
Batman: Arkham Asylum = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Battle Fantasia = 1280x720 (no AA, toggable blur filter)
Battlefield: Bad Company = 1280x720 (no AA)
Battlefield: Bad Company 2 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bayonetta = 1280x720 (no AA)
Beijing 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Beowulf = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Bionic Commando = 1120x640 (no AA)
Bioshock = 1280x720 (no AA)
Bioshock 2 = 1280x720 (edge blur filter)
Blacksite: Area 51 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Blue Dragon = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Brutal Legend = 1200x720 (no AA)
Burnout: Paradise = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Call of Duty 3 = 1040x624 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Call of Duty: World at War = 1024x600 (2x AA)
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood = 1280x672 (4x2 custom edge AA + black borders)
Cars Mater-National = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Club, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3 = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Conan = 1024x576 (no AA)
Condemned 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Conflict: Denied Ops = 1280x720p (2xAA)
Chronicles of Riddick: Dark Athena = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Crackdown = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Crash Time = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dante's Inferno = 1280x720 (no AA)
Darkness, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Dark Sector = 1280x720 (no AA)
Darksiders = 1152x648 (no AA)
Dead or Alive 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dead Rising = 1280x720 ( up to 4xAA depending on frame rate)
Dead Space = 1280x720 (no AA)
Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dirt = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Dirt 2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Don King Prizefighter = 1024x630 (2xAA)
Dragon Age: Origins = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast = 1280x720 (1x1 edge blur)
Dynasty Warriors 6 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Dynasty Warriors: Strike Force = 1280x720 (no AA)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion = 1024x600 (2xAA) - Same for GOTY Edition!
End of Eternity/Resonance of Fate = 1088x720 (2xAA)
End War = 1280x720 (2xAA)
F.E.A.R. = 1280x720 (2xAA)
F.E.A.R. 2 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fable II = 1120x720 (blur filter, 2xAA)
Fable III =
FaceBreaker = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fallout 3 = 1280x720 (4xAA, certain edges)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Far Cry 2 = 1280x696 (2xAA, black borders)
Fight Night Round 4 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Fifa 2006 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fifa 2007 = 1200x675 (no AA)
Fifa 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Fifa Street 3 = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
Final Fantasy XIII = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Fracture = 1280x720 (no AA)
Forza Motorsport 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Forza Motorsport 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA in-game, 4xAA replay & vehicle select)
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD) (2xAA on static objects?)
Gears of War 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, certain edges unaffected)
Ghostbusters = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
G.I. Joe: The Rise of the Cobra = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Godfather II = 1280x720 (no AA)
Golden Axe: Beast Rider = 1280x720 (no AA, blur filter)
Golden Compass = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Grand Theft Auto IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Guitar Hero 3 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero Aerosmith = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero World Tour = 1280x720 (no AA)
Guitar Hero 5 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Halo 3 = 1152x640 (no AA)
Halo 3: ODST = 1152x640 (no AA)
Halo: Reach =
Halo Wars = 1280x720 (2xAA)
HAWX = 1280x720 (4xAA)
IL2 Sturmovik = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Incredible Hulk = 1280x720 (full screen blur)
Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Kung Fu Panda = 1280x720 (no AA)
Left 4 Dead = 1280x720 (no AA, edge blur)
Left 4 Dead 2 = 1280x720 (no AA, edge blur)
Legend of Spyro: Dawn of the Dragon, The = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Legendary = 1280x720 (no AA)
LEGO: Batman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
LEGO: Indiana Jones = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Lord of the Rings: Conquest = 1280x720 (no AA)
Lost Planet = 1280x720 (up to 4x MSAA dependent on framerate)
Lost Planet 2 = 1280x720 (up to 4xMSAA)
Madden NFL '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance 2 = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Mass Effect = 1280x720 (2xAA, transparencies and effects not AA'd)
Mass Effect 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA, transparencies and effects not AA'd)
Mercenaries 2: World in Flames = 1280x720 (no MSAA, but depth/Z-based edge blur?)
Metro 2033 = 1280x720 (AAA)
Midnight Club: Los Angeles = 1280x720 (2xAA?)
Mirror's Edge = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MK vs DC = 1040x624 (2xAA)
MotoGP 2006 (screenshot) = 1280x1024 (framebuffer grab from AVS Forum member)
MotoGP 09/10 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
MX vs ATV: Untamed = 1280x720 (no AA)
MX vs ATV: Reflex = 1280x720 (no AA)
NBA Live '08 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NBA Street Home court (demo) = 1920x1080 (4xAA)
NCAA Football 08 (demo) = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Need For Speed: Pro Street = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Need For Speed: Shift = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Need For Speed: Undercover = 1280x720 (4xAA)
NFL Tour = 1280x720 (4xAA, 60fps)
NHL '09 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Ninja Bladen = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Ninja Gaiden 2 = 1120x584 (2xAA)
Operation Flashpoint 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Orange Box, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Overlord = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Overlord II = 1280x612 (custom edge blur, black borders)
Perfect Dark Zero = 1152x640 (no AA)
Phantasy Star: Universe = 1152x648 (no AA)
Prince of Persia = 1280x720
Pro Evolution Soccer 6 (demo) = 1024x576 (2xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 3 = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Project Gotham Racing 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Prototype = 1120x640 (2xAA)
Quake 4 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Quake Wars: Enemy Territory = 1280x720 (2xAA + blur)
Race Driver: GRID = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Race Pro = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Rainbow Six Vegas 2 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Red Faction: Guerrilla = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Resident Evil 5 = 1280x720 (dynamic 0-4xAA)
Ridge Racer 6 (demo) = 1440x810 (no AA)
Rise of the Argonauts = 1280x720 (2xAA, however post processing is likely interfering with the AA resolve in certain cases )
Rock Band = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Rock Band 2 = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Rock Band: The Beatles = 1280x720 (no AA on stage, 2xAA on highway)
Saboteur = 1280x720 (no AA)
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel = 1920x1080 for any HD output (including PC res), 1280x960 for 4:3 output, 1376x768 for 480p widescreen (no AA)
Saint's Row 2 = 640p (2xAA)
SCORE International Baja 1000 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
SEGA: Rally Revo = 1280x720 (4xAA, alpha to coverage)
SEGA: Superstars Tennis = 1280x720 (2xAA, 30fps)
Shadowrun = 1280x720 (2xAA) - Gamefest '07
Silent Hill: Homecoming = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Simpsons, The = 1280x720 (no AA)
Skate = 1280x720 (2xAA ? )
Soldier of Fortune: Payback = 1280x720 (4xAA ?)
Soul Calibur IV = 1365x960 (no AA, software scaled to 720p)
Sonic Unleashed = 880x720 (2xAA)
Spiderman: Web of Shadows = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Splinter Cell: Conviction = 1024X576 (2xAA)
Splinter Cell: Double Agent = 1280x720 (full screen blur, 1-pixel horizontal & vertical)
Star Ocean 4 = 1248x702 (2xAA + edge blur/DOF, in field), ~936x512 (no AA, in battle)
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed = 1280x720 (no AA)
Stormrise = 1280x720 (4xAA)
Street Fighter IV = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Tales of Vesperia = 1280x720 (2xAA + full screen blur)
Tekken 6 = 1024x576 w/motion blur, 1365x768 w/o motion blur (no AA)
Terminator: Salvation = 1152x648 (blur filter)
Tiger Woods PGA Tour '09 = 1280x720 (no AA)
Tomb Raider: Legend = 1024x600 (2xAA)
Tomb Raider: Underworld = 1024x576 (2xAA) - depth buffer is 1040x576
Tony Hawk's Project 8 (screenshot) = 1040x585 (2xAA)
Tony Hawk's Proving Ground = 1280x720
Top Spin 3 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen = 1120x720 (blur filter)
Turning Point: Fall of Liberty = 1280x720 (no AA)
Turok = 1280x720 (no AA)
UEFA Euro 2008 = 1280x720 (2xAA)
UFC 2009: Undisputed = 1280x720 (custom edge AA with 2 colour gradations like 4xAA)
Unreal Tournament III = 1280x720 (2xAA ala Gears...)
Virtua Fighter 5 (demo) = 1024x1024 (4xAA)
Virtua Tennis 3 = 1920x1080 (2xAA)
Virtua Tennis 2009 = 1280x720 (4xAA)
WALL E = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Wanted = 1120x640 (no AA)
Wheelman = 1280x720 (2xAA)
Wolfenstein = 1280x720 (no AA)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine = 1280x720 (2xAA)

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LS哪来的数据资料?可信度高么?那么全,如果是真的话,ps3抗锯齿完败啊,分辨率半斤八两的,个别ps3稍高点点

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原帖由 小色 于 2010-4-20 15:39 发表
LS哪来的数据资料?可信度高么?那么全,如果是真的话,ps3抗锯齿完败啊,分辨率半斤八两的,个别ps3稍高点点
很多人对b3d很崇拜,全部引自beyond3D

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241

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原帖由 keeperX 于 2010-4-20 15:10 发表


应该不是这么回事。数出来的有效像素的个数是不变的,有效像素的比例是会变的。如果1080P下数出来是2/3,720p下就不会是2/3而是1:1。
Quaz51牛在可以排除AA,拉伸等干扰,辨认有效像素。
如果HUD不是后期合成的而是buffer与geo是一个大小,请问怎样从视频中数出原生分辨率来?
ps:你同一个游戏如果做1080p和720p两次采集当然何以得出结论,但问题是并不知道.
我同意暴皮说的,前提是要知道原始捕捉的分辨率.

[ 本帖最后由 爱游戏 于 2010-4-20 15:49 编辑 ]

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原帖由 希思黎 于 2010-4-20 15:41 发表


很多人对b3d很崇拜,全部引自beyond3D

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=46241
原来这就是传说中的业内b3d,见识了,看来大多数技术口水全部来自于这里的专业

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天師在a9挺厲害的,MLAA原來能堪比16AA
看起來還很專業
http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid ... mp;uid=&page=40

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原帖由 D-JoeV2 于 2010-4-20 16:11 发表
天師在a9挺厲害的,MLAA原來能堪比16AA
看起來還很專業
http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid ... mp;uid=&page=40
天师姐姐一直是baidu,google找几个名词,然后C+A 如果放个5贴不理天师,天师姐姐就要转战了:D

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原帖由 D-JoeV2 于 2010-4-20 16:11 发表
天師在a9挺厲害的,MLAA原來能堪比16AA
看起來還很專業
http://bbs.a9vg.com/read.php?tid ... mp;uid=&page=40
总觉得他好象被盗ID了,最近莫名其妙的很亢奋,不象以前再怎么战也很淡定.

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另外战神3的抗锯齿效果的确很不错.

但某人忘了这可是建立在不能转动视角的基础上的.

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Remedy confirms Alan Wake's resolution a composite between 720p and 540p

Modern renderers don't work by rendering everything to a certain final on-screen resolution, but use a combination of techniques and buffers to compose the final detail-rich frames, optimizing to improve the visual experience and game performance.

Alan Wake's renderer on the Xbox360 uses about 50 different intermediate render targets in different resolutions, color depths and anti-alias settings for different purposes. These are used for example for cascaded shadow maps from sun & moon, shadow maps from flashlights, flares and street lights, z-prepass, tiled color buffers, light buffers for deferred rendering, vector blur, screen-space ambient occlusion, auto-exposure, HUD, video buffers, menus and so on. In the end all are combined to form one 720p image, with all intermediate buffer sizes selected to optimize image quality and GPU performance. All together the render targets take about 80 MB of memory, equivalent in size to over twenty 720p buffers."

Beyond3D appears to be somewhat confused as well. Most consider the opaque geometry framebuffer to be the "game resolution," which is 960x540 in the case of Alan Wake, but they do agree that there is more to Alan Wake than just that, which makes this entire situation sort of complicated... It isn't strictly 540p. But it isn't strictly 720p either.

http://n4g.com/xbox360/News-510664.aspx

这话应该怎么去理解,是不是在720p中混合了540p的东西,那么到底是720p的还是540p。

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