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你如果用Mac听音乐，我推荐买个Auidrvana Plus这个软件，普通CD可以升到192khz采样率，声音有质的提升。我的DAC最大只能到192，如果DAC支持更高还可以到更高。而且用这个软件AirPlay到音箱上的效果也很好。AirPlay到箱子上听最熟悉的Decca老克莱伯指挥维爱1955年版《费加罗的婚礼》，虽然AirPlay因为Apple的限制无法突破44.1kHz的采样频率，但是比之前在这个箱子上无论是PC还是Mac上的iTunes播放Apple Lossless文件都要好很多。这个录音还是单声道录音，虽然decca修复得非常好。

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原帖由 @hourousha  于 2015-3-1 08:28 AM 发表
十年前听DVDA，觉得确实好点，但我觉得那大体是由多声道带来的效果提升，所谓的24bit96KHz作用对我的耳朵而言提升极其有限。
现在LZ听CD都能听出全是毛刺，如果盘本身没问题，那只能说LZ的耳朵确实不一般。
个人的观点是，流行音乐，CD那是完全够了。需要高解析度的，是那些古典音乐，尤其是管弦乐队的。但是一个核心的矛盾就是，古典乐是听版本的，也就是版本的重要性大于所谓的数据规格重要性，举个极端例子就是阿巴多指挥维也纳爱乐的版本，即使盘片都爆音了，也要远比那什么周周指挥某个乐团的SACD版本要好不知哪里去了。而且由于录音技术与年代问题，一些大师的版本，母片就已经有了相当的问题，那么再怎么提升规格数字化，也已经没什么用了。

是的。富特文格勒在拜罗伊特音乐节的贝九虽然录音不堪，但是在我心目中没有版本比这个好听，虽然后期版本乐器可以更辉煌灿烂让目眩神怡。究其原因就是“演绎”大于“录音”，而“演绎”是更接近于“现场”的属性，也就是古典音乐还是“现场聆听”是第一位的。这个三月要听两场，杜达梅尔指挥洛杉矶爱乐演奏马勒六和德沃夏克九，每次去我都像要朝圣一般，之前大量熟悉作品然后“盛装出席”，对于我来说去听现场是一种“神圣的仪式”，因为虽然我的票位置不是最好的，但是我认为我听到的声音无论是音色还是位置都是比“录音”准确的。

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原帖由 @benbensoldier  于 2015-3-1 08:48 AM 发表
纯粹提升采样率没有效果这是常识，你听着有区别唯一的可能就是动了EQ

Sound quality

But what about sound quality? In that area there’s something strange going on. I decided to try out Audirvana Plus 2 with three different DACs: an Apogee Duet iPad & Mac, an AudioEngine D1 and an Audioquest Dragonfly 2.0. I tested with classical music only — that’s the only music I really listen to anyway. I ran the same tests with Amarra 3 again.

Now, here’s what strange: with Amarra 3, the three DACs sounded pretty much the same. There were very subtle differences between the Duet, the D1 and the Dragonfly. If I would have someone else change the cables and connections and listen to the music with my eyes closed, I wouldn’t have been able to tell the difference.

When I tried the three DACs with Audirvana Plus 2, I suddenly heard very clear differences. The D1 was more clear — almost harsh — sounding than the Duet, with the Dragonfly in-between. The Duet performed better in the bass tones, etc. There was a better sound-stage with the Duet than with the D1, etc, etc.

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To make sure I wasn’t making this up, I switched back to Amarra 3, but I got the same result: an almost identical sound from the three DACs — less transparency and less sound staging as well. It all sounded a little bit muddier.

I can only find one explanation for this: in Amarra 3, some equalisation is going on, despite me having turned off their EQ feature explicitly. I know SonicStudio is raving about their EQ capabilities, and there are specific headphone EQ settings in the built-in EQ feature. But I would expect the EQ feature to be off when I teel it to. I now suspect it somehow isn’t.

In contrast, Audirvana Plus 2.0.1 seems not to add anything to your music — just the sound as it was recorded. In the past, when I still listened to a Denon Super Audio CD player with a Musical Fidelity headphones amplifier connected, I could hear whether a recording was good or bad. From those years, I still remember which CDs sound like rubbish and which are brilliant.

With Audirvana Plus 2.0.1 I got back that experience and that’s what I expect from a HiFi music player. In Audirvana Plus’ Preferences I can select an Audio Filter if I want that. I have NUGENAudio SEQ-S eqaliser on my system, an EQ that is vastly superior to the Amarra 3 one. I have yet to turn it on, so I don’t know yet if I want that — but the point is that in Audirvana Plus 2 I will at least have a choice. In Amarra 3 I should have that choice too, but it seems like it doesn’t matter much.

As I was surprised by the Amarra sound experience, I tried activating the EQ and setting it at extreme levels. The sound changed, but not by much — and it only became muddier. Perhaps my system is to blame, a conflict with the many pro audio recording apps I keep on the system from previous reviews. Even if that is the case, it doesn’t affect Audirvana Plus 2.

Bottom-line as experienced from my testing: Audirvana Plus 2.0.1 doesn’t just look better and has at least as good management functionality as iTunes, it also sounds like it’s supposed to: with High Fidelity.

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原帖由 @mephistofele  于 2015-3-1 08:01 PM 发表
位置确实挺重要的……
我听现场总喜欢选择二层侧前位，导致听音位置感都有点错乱了

另外你这种听拜罗伊特节日剧院的人也算土豪了，那地界听现场当然把所有听音方案都秒掉了，整个剧场所有设施全是木质，这是究极的玄学了………………

拜罗伊特音乐节那是录音，福特文革勒老爷子在世的时候我还没出生…没去过拜罗伊特…

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原帖由 @mephistofele  于 2015-3-2 12:12 AM 发表
喷了我光看你后面那几句了，刚发现是老福……

另外求推一个grieg《皮尔金》的好版本，最好是全剧26段的，不要组曲版本…………

没听过…我只知道留声机百大的版本，EMI的世纪伟大录音系列…

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最近在YY SACD机…yamaha cd-s2000和艺雅c5-xemp………