电子书Kindle4廉价版到手, 小玩一把, 然后说一下缺点吧
买之前很多东西没搞清楚, 匆忙就出手了...小后悔.
说一下缺点吧:
1 不支持广泛流行的epub格式 (据说epub是事实标准了)
2 看pdf不行
3 不支持图书馆借书!! ( 只支持美国本地图书馆借书, 如你在美帝则无所谓, 不支持其它国家的图书馆)
但是sony那个wifi ebook可以.
4 不支持现在国内流行的那个啥多看软件
5 没有喇叭不可发音
6 暂时没有发现没有中文的正版书图书馆或者购买
7 内存容量比上代缩小了
8 无触摸输入不是很方便 (设置wifi, 建立目录, 查阅单词需要触摸或者大量按键)
9 外形和颜色都弱爆了, 一看就是山寨货色.


然后昨天打开三体的时候, 死机了一次, 研究很久知道重启的方法了, 进去一看, wifi的设置已经没了, 又要重新设置, 又是一通麻烦(无触摸).

优点呢:
1. 79刀貌似最便宜的了, 如果你有办法买到广告版 (只发美国)
2. 大量免费英文正版书下载, 正版的, amazon自营书店
3. 别人说的: 英文新书很多.
我看了下, 现在就有冰火的什么一套 电子版比实体版便宜几刀. ( 15 VS 21) 其实并非便宜太多, 我感觉打对折会好一点.


仔细想想, 还是sony那个更好! 如果是129刀的话 ( vs Kindle4 非广告版正常价格109).
但是暂时sony那个对中文支持很弱需要一定程度的DIY work around.
但是支持触摸, 外形更好, 支持正版图书馆借阅.



[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-13 02:35 编辑 ]

如果, 未来K4能支持多看, 如果未来sony ebook能原生支持中文书, 那可以再对比衡量下.

至于中文正版书两者都没有吧. 谈不上那种电子书的优缺点, 应该算是普世弱点了  

但是只支持美帝图书馆这方面确实是kindle弱爆了.
Sony(和其它很多很多的电子书kobo, Nook), 都能支持各国的本地图书馆借阅,  海量书籍, 还是很强大的, 而且这些都是正版的,  书籍种类数量可以称为天文数字.
仔细想想, 这已经成为第二大联合阵营了跟K系对着干了.




Aluratek LIBRE Air eBook        
Aluratek LIBRE Air eBook
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
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Aluratek LIBRE Color eBook        
Aluratek LIBRE Color eBook
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This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
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Aluratek LIBRE Touch eBook        
Aluratek LIBRE Touch eBook
With OverDrive Media Console v2.1 (or newer) installed on the device.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Amazon Kindle (1st Generation) (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle (1st Generation) (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
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Amazon Kindle (2nd Generation) (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle (2nd Generation) (US libraries only)
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This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       

         




Amazon Kindle (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
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Amazon Kindle DX (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle DX (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
product page   
         




Amazon Kindle Fire (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle Fire (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
product page   
         




Amazon Kindle Keyboard (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle Keyboard (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
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Amazon Kindle Touch (US libraries only)        
Amazon Kindle Touch (US libraries only)
This device is compatible with Kindle eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is not compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
product page   
         




Barnes & Noble NOOKcolor?        
Barnes & Noble NOOKcolor?
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Barnes & Noble NOOK? 1st Edition        
Barnes & Noble NOOK? 1st Edition
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Barnes & Noble NOOK? 2nd Edition        
Barnes & Noble NOOK? 2nd Edition
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This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




enTourage Pocket eDGe        
enTourage Pocket eDGe
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
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iRiver Story HD        
iRiver Story HD
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Kobo eReader        
Kobo eReader
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Kobo eReader Touch Edition        
Kobo eReader Touch Edition
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This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Literati Reader        
Literati Reader
With firmware v1.8 (or newer).
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This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




NextBook Next2        
NextBook Next2
MP3 Audiobooks ed with OverDrive Media Console v2 (or newer) installed on the device.
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This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Pandigital Novel        
Pandigital Novel
Requires firmware update.
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This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




PocketBook Pro 602        
PocketBook Pro 602
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This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Daily Edition? (PRS-900BC)        
Sony Reader Daily Edition? (PRS-900BC)
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Daily Edition? (PRS-950SC)        
Sony Reader Daily Edition? (PRS-950SC)
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Pocket Edition? (PRS-300SC)        
Sony Reader Pocket Edition? (PRS-300SC)
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Pocket Edition? (PRS-350SC)        
Sony Reader Pocket Edition? (PRS-350SC)
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is not compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader PRS-505        
Sony Reader PRS-505
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader PRS-700        
Sony Reader PRS-700
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Touch Edition? (PRS-600BC)        
Sony Reader Touch Edition? (PRS-600BC)
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader Touch Edition? (PRS-650BC)        
Sony Reader Touch Edition? (PRS-650BC)
OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks are ed with limited functionality.
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device is compatible with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.
       
       
       
         




Sony Reader? Wi-Fi? (PRS-T1)        
Sony Reader? Wi-Fi? (PRS-T1)
This device is not compatible with Kindle Books.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive PDF eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open EPUB eBooks.
       
This device is compatible with OverDrive Open PDF eBooks.
This device has not been tested with OverDrive MP3 Audiobooks.

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原帖由 qazqaz 于 2011-11-13 05:53 发表
posted by wap, platform: iPhone

楼主还用kindle最便宜的货来比sony较一百多的货，说没有触摸没有喇叭容量缩小，得出结论是sony的好，好客观！

K4非触摸版正常价格109 (可以发美国外) VS 129 (149折扣20)
只差20刀的话...外观+喇叭+触摸+海量图书馆(免费正版书)   这个,,,性价比应该说是sony的那个更高.
自制书下载书盗版书方面就不讨论了, 貌似两者都差不多吧?

除非真的是穷得揭不开锅, 掏不出那20刀差价来换取那么多的华丽功能呀.
不过这情况在TGFC是不存在的, 因为TGFC人均长度两把半, 人均日收入两万半!

79的广告版本还可以比比, 但是那个只供应美国本土, 特殊情况就不讨论了.
仔细想想....那个sony 129也不发国外....只供应美国本土...唉唉, 美帝果然水深火热.

当然我也就随便一喷, 电子书这些东西不是很懂. 没想到引起一点反响, 请大家多指导!!!!!

[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-13 08:04 编辑 ]

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原帖由 mike7882 于 2011-11-13 10:01 发表
posted by wap, platform: Nokia (E5)

楼主的着眼点好奇怪，感觉有些钻牛角尖了

不能理解就算了,  各取所需嘛.
正版方面跟正版比,  盗版方面跟盗版比嘛.
几个论坛能下载到的盗版书和自制书, 不是特别经典的就是特别流行的.  其它的书恐怕就很难了吧.
这跟图书馆的海量是没得比的吧...那些都是免费的正版资源, 这意味着使用的便利和理直气壮.
这意味着xxx政府和纳税人每年XXX万刀的图书管理资源.
我感觉这总会比几个论坛上面的流行盗版书要多吧?

我比较关心这个是因为我有本地图书馆的借书卡,  除Kindle外的其它一切ebook设备都能借书看,  能合理合法方便的拿来用.
而Kindle只支持美帝图书馆, 不鄙视它实在不行.
这个方面一般清楚的人比较少, 所以特意提出来供大家参考.

[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-13 10:15 编辑 ]

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原帖由 Running82 于 2011-11-13 10:10 发表
1 不支持广泛流行的epub格式 (据说epub是事实标准了)
EPUB格式的书，你随便找一本过来，都可以找到txt版本或者mobi版本。不要看epub格式的书多，其实你要看的书，都有相应的mobi和txt。
2 看pdf不行
6寸的就要看6 ...

别的不多说了, 隐约觉得要变成E71百年大战系列了.

说下喇叭的功能
text to Speech 还是比较有用的.
虽然没听过, 但是我感觉如果能听它把文字读出来还是很好的. 省眼力啊.
就英语读物来说.
而且这也是amazon书籍的一个卖点.

George R. R. Martin's A Game of Thrones 4-Book Bundle: A Song of Ice and Fire Series: A Game of Thrones, A Clash of Kings, A Storm of Swords, and A Feast for Crows [Kindle Edition]
George R.R. Martin (Author)
3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (678 customer reviews) | Like (184)
Digital List Price:         $30.00 What's this?
Print List Price:         $35.96
Kindle Price:         $15.05 includes free international wireless delivery via Amazon Whispernet
You Save:         $20.91 (58%)

    Text-to-Speech: Enabled
    Don't have a Kindle? Get your Kindle here.

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原帖由 Running82 于 2011-11-13 10:16 发表
lz反反复复的要用多看
然后又反反复复的说要去正版的图书馆，买正版书。。。
你觉得你以后用了多看后，还会去买正版，借正版的书吗？

还有，要说多看，kindle肯定会有，因为kindle现在用的人多，多看也愿意在用 ...

现在不是多看和图书馆两个功能都没有嘛!!

那个图书馆的书不用买, 是免费的.
不过特别热门的书要排队等, 冷门的随便看.

对了, 提一下,  Kindle也能从一个特别的图书馆借书,
这个特别的图书馆就是amazon自己的一切书.
不过代价是一年79刀的prime费...
(这就是借书卡的价值呀)
不过仍然是只限美国用户...


Kindle Owners' Lending Library for Amazon Prime Members

The Kindle Owners' Lending Library allows eligible U. S. Amazon Prime members who own Kindle devices to choose from thousands of books to borrow for free -- including more than 100 current and former New York Times Bestsellers -- as frequently as a book a month, with no due dates.

Eligible Prime members -- paid Amazon Prime, paid Amazon student, one-month free trial, and customers receiving a free month of Prime benefits with a Kindle Fire -- must own a Kindle device that is registered to the same Amazon.com account as the eligible Prime account in order to access this benefit.

    Borrowing from the Kindle Owners' Lending Library
    Returning a Book to the Kindle Owners' Lending Library

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原帖由 Pele 于 2011-11-13 10:35 发表
这图书馆借书是咋操作的
为啥能支持KINDLE以外所有的阅读器？

我也是在上周才不小心发现新鲜事物.
对抗kindle的, 这个是epub格式授权阵营, 含阿斗逼(adobe)参与的势力

例如多伦多公共图书馆(需要户口--借书卡号 哈哈哈)
http://www.torontopubliclibrary. ... c/downloads-ebooks/

device list
http://www.overdrive.com/resources/drc/

[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-13 10:51 编辑 ]

小福利吧,  冰火四部头
零售版 mobi + epub

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原帖由 洛克狼 于 2011-11-13 11:27 发表  

借書也只能借原版書，中文的有多少？kindle有個8GB的下載包裏面有很多英文書，不明白為什麼要執著這個不符合國情的功能

不看贴直接就上来喷的?
中文正版书两者都没有吧? 是不是.
几个阵营里面的英文正版书市场都是必要的主要的卖点和战场, amazon自己的卖场, sony的ebookstore, kobo的书店, 还有图书馆,
肯定是要重点比较的.
你一句IDC, 你一句不符合国情, 你一句我有一个8G的下载包就全部都拥有了?
喷了

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原帖由 Running82 于 2011-11-13 13:22 发表
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lz想弄个图书馆来秀来福是戴尔的，没想到被我们无视的轮了一遍。
图书馆我用不到，而且你多看能看到的，我原生也能看。

其实我没用过多看.
只是听别人说的, 以前的Kindle有了多看就牛逼爆了.
所以就暂时当真了, 其实也不知道是不是真的.

另外从这几件事觉得你真的好偏激啊,
E71也好, 你刚买的kindle4也好, 凡是你自己在用的东西就绝听不得别人说一句坏话?
至于嘛.  就一个廉价电子玩具, 非要说得多完美?  别人说几个客观缺点就要轮?  还能更狭隘一点吗?

所以友藏当年没能逼疯其它人, 却能把你给逼疯了 哈哈哈

[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-14 03:53 编辑 ]

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原帖由 turnlive 于 2011-11-14 01:31 发表
lz为什么不买99刀的kindle touch
你要的功能都有，价格和kindle store的书库秒杀sony。

epub要是支持好的话，kindle store的mobi书怎么卖？

这个道理地球人都懂吧?  所以说是两个正版书阵营.
所以对这两个阵营的市场, 用户肯定免不了要比较的.

79的非touch, 99的touch都是广告版.
只供应美国, 我没办法买
没广告的touch可以供应海外, 不过价格是139.

[ 本帖最后由 himura 于 2011-11-14 03:56 编辑 ]