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作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 16:39 标题: X1独占D4销量如屎，制作人末弘秀孝推特求救

Q. I’ve never even heard of this game. What are you even talking about?
A. This is exactly the problem!

Q. Fine, what is D4?
A. D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die is an episodic mystery adventure game exclusive to the Xbox One. It was published by Microsoft and developed by Access Games. The game’s creator is Swery, the man behind the cult-hit Deadly Premonition. The game is a digital download and costs $15.

Q. What constitutes “selling like shit”?
A. According to the leaderboards, as of this very moment less than 10,000 people have bought and played this game worldwide.

Q. Whoa, that is bad. So why is the game selling so badly?
A. It was basically sent to die. It was unceremoniously dumped on the Xbox One’s store without a release date announced in advance. D4 has received essentially no marketing whatsoever. This leads me to believe that the publisher, Microsoft, lost faith in the product and told the team to halt production and just release whatever was finished. Sadly, this game will live or die on word-of-mouth alone. The game’s director, Swery, has stated that his team is not actively working on further episodes at this time and that the sales of Season One will determine if they are allowed to continue the story. Naturally, this episodic story ends on a cliffhanger.

Q. But is the game any good?
A. Yes. Unless you have a low tolerance for weird games from Japan. But it’s the good kind of weird, not the tentacle/loli/moe kind of weird. It might even be the best exclusive on Xbox One. And unlike Deadly Premonition, the good parts of the game aren't trapped behind tedious and tacked-on combat or driving.

Q. What is the game like? What do you do in it?
A. The gameplay is most analogous to something like a Telltale game or a David Cage game. You won’t be shooting dudes, you’ll be spend most of your time talking to characters and exploring the environment. The tone, however, is completely unique. Much like Deadly Premonition, it’s a game set in America, through the lens of a team located in Japan. The world and its inhabitants are quirky and interesting. It’s got a good mix of heartfelt character moments and avant-garde action. You play as David Young, a former Boston detective who can't get over the tragic death of his wife. The traumatic events surrounding her death left Young unable to recall those memories, but has given him the ability to travel through time. You'll spend the game exploring David's apartment and diving into the past in a desperate effort to change events that have already occurred. Oh, and the music is pretty cool.

Q. Does the game use the Kinect?
A. Yes, you can play the game with nothing but the Kinect. You can talk to witnesses using voice commands and push owls with your hand. The most creative use of the camera is the elaborate stunt sequences that’ll have you scrambling to mimic actions. Imagine if you had to act out the Resident Evil 4 Krauser fight in order to beat it.

Q. That sounds horrible; I hate using the Kinect. Can I just use a controller?
A. Thankfully yes! The standard controls work great!

Q. Is it really worth $15, though?
A. Yes. The game consists of a prologue and two episodes and should take you around five hours to beat, assuming you aren’t skipping all the conversations and side content. I’ve already spent more than double that amount of time trying to find every secret and collectable, not to mention unlocking all 78 achievements. A small amount of content can only be completed on subsequent playthroughs and there are numerous unlockables, such as alternate costumes for the main characters. The game will be getting free DLC costumes each week that tie into other video games for a little while too.

Q. But why buy the game when it’ll probably be free on Games with Gold in a few months?
A. Because then we’ll never get any more D4. Well never get an ending. But most importantly, the game is worth your money. We should be encouraging Japanese developers to continue to make quirky console games, especially Swery.

Q. But why even play the game when I can watch a playthrough online?
A. You really are the worst.

Q. I’m still just not sold on this.
A. Then look at this Giant Bomb Quick Look. This spoils a portion of the Prologue and the start of Episode One.

Oh, and Swery is awesome. Follow this man on Twitter, you won’t regret it. He’ll probably follow you, too.

Q. I just bought and played D4, and I liked it. Is there really any more I can do?
A. Tell someone about it. Use the official #XboxD4 hashtag on Twitter. Recommend the game to a friend. Discuss the game in GAF’s official thread. It has a pretty meager post count compared to most other releases this year.

Look, I’m trying to be realistic. We can tweet at Phil Spencer and other Microsoft employees and tell them how much we want them to fund more episodes all we want, but the bottom line is they care about the game's sales. No doubt it has to reach some unknown minimum threshold for them to even consider giving Access Games any more money. I’m grateful that Microsoft paid Swery to make and release D4 Season One. But it’s not enough, Swery and Access Games have made a good product and deserve to finish their story.

As you can tell, I feel strongly about this. So much so that I’m going to make buying D4 even easier for a lucky few. The first twenty members (that don’t already own D4) who post their gamertags here will be PM’ed an Xbox Live code for $10 to be used towards D4: Dark Dreams Don’t Die. Don’t spend this on Minecraft skins or Destiny content. If I don’t see D4 on your profile after a couple of days, I’m calling you out. Seriously, don’t be that asshole who take's advantage of my kindness.

I love you all!
#SaveD4

出个PC或者PS4版就买:D

作者: mikukon 时间: 2014-9-28 16:41

宣传不到位，我也是发售后才知道有这个游戏

作者: 伪装同学丶 时间: 2014-9-28 16:43

中文版，PS4版，PC版,IOS版

作者: 马甲雷01 时间: 2014-9-28 16:44

这个？

是什么类型的游戏？

作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 16:48

引用:

原帖由 马甲雷01 于 2014-9-28 16:44 发表
这个？

是什么类型的游戏？

你猜？:D

作者: -_-||| 时间: 2014-9-28 16:49

posted by wap, platform: iPhone
等金会员送

作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 17:07

贴几张这组前作致命预感的图吧，游戏除了画面很挫外，gameplay设计和叙事都做的相当不错，风格也及其诡异，有X1且喜欢这类型AVG的可以去支持一下D4

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作者: 马甲雷01 时间: 2014-9-28 17:10

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原帖由 hqqttjiang 于 2014-9-28 16:48 发表

你猜？:D

那哪儿猜得到？:D
你就说呗。:D

作者: 马甲雷01 时间: 2014-9-28 17:12

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原帖由 hqqttjiang 于 2014-9-28 17:07 发表
贴几张这组前作致命预感的图吧，游戏除了画面很挫外，gameplay设计和叙事都做的相当不错，风格也及其诡异，有X1且喜欢这类型AVG的可以去支持一下D4

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为什么我感觉那最后一张里有个女人那么像D食卓里的劳拉呢？

是续作吗？

顺便悼念一下饭野先生。

作者: liu2596960 时间: 2014-9-28 17:13

posted by wap, platform: 华为荣耀6
这个系列能出到4代也算奇葩

作者: DarthVadar 时间: 2014-9-28 17:15

posted by wap, platform: iPhone
已经发售了？记得e3演示还行

作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 17:15

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原帖由 liu2596960 于 2014-9-28 17:13 发表
posted by wap, platform: 华为荣耀6
这个系列能出到4代也算奇葩

不会名字是D4，你就认为这是第四作吧。。。

D4暗梦不灭是新IP

作者: kailuhage 时间: 2014-9-28 17:18

解决这个问题很简单
首先作为金会员免费游戏，MS会付出一笔钱
出完几个章节之后，完整版上STEAM结束。

作者: mieumieu 时间: 2014-9-28 17:19

posted by wap, platform: Chrome

引用:

原帖由 @hqqttjiang 于 2014-9-28 17:07 发表
贴几张这组前作致命预感的图吧，游戏除了画面很挫外，gameplay设计和叙事都做的相当不错，风格也及其诡异，有X1且喜欢这类型AVG的可以去支持一下D4

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没有X1，所以致命预感我PS3和PC版各支持了一份

作者: 讴歌123 时间: 2014-9-28 17:24

posted by wap, platform: GOOGLE Nexus 4
微软没宣传的确傻逼

十一时候买份支持下，本来没中文我都不想买的

希望MS允许跨PC，多卖个几份吧，不然都没机会看到后面的篇章了

作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 17:29

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原帖由 讴歌123 于 2014-9-28 17:24 发表
posted by wap, platform: GOOGLE Nexus 4
微软没宣传的确傻逼

十一时候买份支持下，本来没中文我都不想买的

希望MS允许跨PC，多卖个几份吧，不然都没机会看到后面的篇章了

微软买断又不宣传图个啥？？

这IP版权也不是微软的，在Access Games自己那

作者: kailuhage 时间: 2014-9-28 17:33

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原帖由 hqqttjiang 于 2014-9-28 17:29 发表

微软买断又不宣传图个啥？？

这IP版权也不是微软的，在Access Games自己那

Access Games没有独断发行的权利

作者: kailuhage 时间: 2014-9-28 17:34

游戏算是K2的牺牲品，E3拿出来展示过，可惜后面随着政策的改变，D4也不太受重视
PS：登陆港服第一天就买了，本来打算等未来的中文更新，现在来看希望渺茫。

[ 本帖最后由 kailuhage 于 2014-9-28 17:36 编辑 ]

作者: darkjack 时间: 2014-9-28 17:43

可惜了，也许微软没看好这游戏，白白浪费了一个独占。

作者: 讴歌123 时间: 2014-9-28 17:50

posted by wap, platform: GOOGLE Nexus 4

引用:

原帖由 @hqqttjiang 于 2014-9-28 17:29 发表
微软买断又不宣传图个啥？？

这IP版权也不是微软的，在Access Games自己那

不是买断，游戏本身就是微软出资开发的，本意是当一个核心啃奶游戏来卖的，微软出资的目的意在宣传啃奶而不是这个游戏

结果Phil Spencer把啃奶砍了，那这个游戏就没太大的宣传必要了，因为无论宣不宣传都是宝石，参照前作三个月卖了5万

当然，我不是精神股东，我觉得微软挺傻逼的，因为万一赚不到太多钱(当然不会亏钱就是了)，后面的篇章就没了，那这个坑谁来填？

作者: 马甲雷01 时间: 2014-9-28 17:54

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原帖由 讴歌123 于 2014-9-28 17:50 发表
posted by wap, platform: GOOGLE Nexus 4
不是买断，游戏本身就是微软出资开发的，本意是当一个核心啃奶游戏来卖的，微软出资的目的意在宣传啃奶而不是这个游戏

结果Phil Spencer把啃奶砍了，那这个游戏就没太大 ...

微软估计也挺郁闷的。前期给这个游戏投的钱等于扔水里了。

作者: kailuhage 时间: 2014-9-28 17:57

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原帖由 马甲雷01 于 2014-9-28 17:54 发表

微软估计也挺郁闷的。前期给这个游戏投的钱等于扔水里了。

才做了两章的投资算什么钱。。

作者: LBJ444 时间: 2014-9-28 19:17

赶紧跨PC 或PS4吧,

看这游戏跨个手机平板也行吧认为360也可以加减跨了

赚钱要紧,只可惜这游戏没中文化

作者: 马甲雷 时间: 2014-9-28 19:43

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原帖由 kailuhage 于 2014-9-28 05:57 PM 发表

才做了两章的投资算什么钱。。

微软的钱也不是大风刮来的。毕竟人家还是商家。投资是期望有回报的。

我只是不理解啃奶头也不是什么很占资源的配件，说不搞就不搞了，这个挺让人费解的。

作者: shiningfire 时间: 2014-9-28 20:06

听说微软18个月后要倒闭了

作者: westlost 时间: 2014-9-28 23:00

体感游戏，必须k2支持，以前看过演示也就那样了，画面一般

作者: baki 时间: 2014-9-28 23:07

posted by wap, platform: Galaxy Note III
这个制作组的前作致命预感是不是媒体评分超烂啊？

作者: 倍舒爽 时间: 2014-9-28 23:08

这个游戏印象很深，看到了诚意和求变的决心。。
记得当时x1没卖就在这发过视频，回帖的只有1个人，好像还是李老板。。

作者: hqqttjiang 时间: 2014-9-28 23:14

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原帖由 baki 于 2014-9-28 23:07 发表
posted by wap, platform: Galaxy Note III
这个制作组的前作致命预感是不是媒体评分超烂啊？

评分也不算太糟糕 MC平均分70 IGN那2分纯粹是秀下限，我怀疑他们根本就没玩通任何一个章节

游戏除去画面一坨翔外整体素质不错的

开放世界+优秀的叙事方式和剧本+诡异的环境和人物

B级片神作

作者: yhong1234567 时间: 2014-9-28 23:19

我看微博上几个玩这个的，评价都挺好的

作者: XboxW 时间: 2014-9-29 01:28

成也啃奶，败也啃奶么...

作者: 你老闆 时间: 2014-9-29 01:42

兩作都我很喜歡,不過推不起來也不奇怪
另外因為不是AAA作品,所以其實出PC版是有可能的(微軟自家擁有IP的小遊戲例如Ori都會同步PC了)

對了,D4可以完全用手柄來玩

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