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作者: Viviwill 时间: 2013-10-24 09:20 标题: 【转】【剧透】前NASA宇航员Garrett Reisman的Graivity影评

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“Gravity” is the most realistic space movie ever. I mean, that Clooney guy looks just like me!

Actually I’ve been besieged with questions about what I thought about this movie ever since it came out. Just here at work at SpaceX last week, I was asked that question about a dozen times a day. I quipped that “What do you think of “Gravity”?” was becoming every astronaut’s least favorite question, surpassing even “How do you poop in space?”

So, to help me deal with this onslaught, here is my more serious attempt at a movie review:

First of all, it’s a great movie. The pace and story was definitely engaging and I think it was the best use of the 3-D IMAX medium to date. Rather than using the medium as a gimmick, “Gravity” uses it to depict a real environment that is completely alien to most people.

But the question that most people want me to answer is, how realistic was it? The very fact that the question is being asked so earnestly is a testament to the verisimilitude of the movie. When a bad science fiction movie comes out, no one bothers to ask me if it reminded me of the real thing.

The movie does an outstanding job of capturing what it is like to do a spacewalk – much better than any previous sci fi film. Having done three spacewalks myself, I can tell you – this is legit. The visual impact of having nothing but the glass of your helmet between you and the Earth is captured very well. (Although the Earth is a bit more sharp and vivid in the movie than the real thing. Plus there is almost always an interesting land-mass to look at when in reality you spend most of your time looking down at a less-interesting ocean view.) Also, the movement and physicality of doing a spacewalk is rendered in a very accurate manner. The ease of starting a motion and the difficulty of stopping it in the vacuum of space is captured accurately in many scenes.

It’s amazing how many things “Gravity” gets right. When Sandra Bullock’s character turns the two valves to shut off oxygen flow to the Soyuz – those are exactly the correct valves to turn. When she wants to command the orbital maneuvering engine, the CKD, she pushes the correct button which is also labeled correctly. The interiors of the Soyuz and the International Space Station, are pretty realistic although the various modules are not the correct position.

In Pictures: Stunning Photos Of The Earth From Space

And the danger of space debris is very real. During my first spacewalk, my partner, Rick, had to bring in a handle that was stowed on the outside of the station. When he got it inside he noticed a hole, about a millimeter in diameter, that was shot through the half-inch solid aluminum material by a piece of orbital debris. It looked like someone had taken a cocktail straw and shoved it right through the metal. He looked at me and said, “If that hit one of us…” There was no need to finish that sentence, since such an event would have been instantly fatal, although I pointed out that he is about 6′ 2″ tall and I am about 5’5″ so it was much more likely to hit him instead of me.

Ironically, the fact that the movie got so many things correct made it very disconcerting for me when the movie did get several things completely wrong.

SPOILER ALERT!! Stop reading now if you do not want key plot points revealed.

Yes, there are major violations of the laws of physics and minor violations of typical astronaut behavior in the movie. The biggest error is that there is no way to go hopping from one spacecraft or space station to another so easily. It takes tremendous energy and careful planning to change orbits. For example, as was made so clear in the aftermath of the Space Shuttle Columbia tragedy, even with it’s flight computer, a full tank of propellant and hundreds of people on the ground to support, there was no way for the crew Columbia to reach the safety of the International Space Station. You can’t just look around and see another spacecraft and then get there by simply pointing in the general direction with some soft landing jets and a fire extinguisher.

Another huge error was – there was absolutely no reason for Clooney to sacrifice himself!!! Once Sandra caught him, he would be just floating there. A small tug on his tether would send him back to the space station. And as my wife put it, when you have a hold of George Clooney, only an idiot would let him go.

Of course, at the speed he was tumbling by her, there is no way she would have caught him in the first place. He weighs a few hundred pounds and his suit weighs a few hundred more. Try lying on a sheet of ice while a 500 pound weight goes flying by and then try to grab a tether attached to that weight while wearing a pair of gloves from a medieval suit of armor. Not so easy.

In Pictures: Stunning Photos Of The Earth From Space

Also, how was Clooney going to beat Anatoly’s space walk record if astronauts apparently don’t wear either a diaper or a cooling garment under their spacesuits? That would be one smelly suit. Although I have to admit, that Sandra Bullock looked much sexier in her tank-top and boy shorts than I did when I took off my spacesuit:

Yes, I could go on and on about all the things “Gravity” got wrong. If you put me in a Chinese spaceship, there is no way I would be able to figure out how to fly it home. An astronaut that took joyrides around the Hubble Telescope with a jet pack shouldn’t even bother coming home. And a debris field in low earth orbit would never take out geostationary communication satellites.

But who cares?

All of these inaccuracies were done to help advance the plot or to add drama to the film which is exactly the artistic license we should be willing to grant the filmmakers. This is entertainment, not a documentary.

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Recently, I was at an event where Neil Armstrong’s son talked about his father’s many wonderful qualities and one bad one – it was very difficult to watch a sci fi movie with his dad. He would complain if one instrument was out of place on an aircraft’s panel. He objected to the catapulting of fighters off the Battlestar Galactica – it’s not like they have to build up airspeed to get aloft – why not just plop them out the door?

With all due respect to one of humanity’s greatest individuals, I don’t want to be like that.

It’s just a movie – and a very good one.

作者: Viviwill 时间: 2013-10-24 09:37

几段：
“引力”是我看过的最真实的讲述太空的电影，我是说，乔治克鲁尼跟我简直太像了

电影出了之后，人们最想问我的问题就是“这片子假不假”. 其实大家这么热烈的问这个问题正是这个片子最好的写照，要这是个烂片，根本没人理我

“你觉得引力这电影怎么样” 已经超过了 "你在太空怎么大便“，成为了所有宇航员最不喜欢的问题

确实，我可以一直唠叨这电影的所有”硬伤“，如果把我放在天宫一号里，我肯定飞不回去。一个在哈勃望远镜边上无所事事飞来飞去的宇航员还是别回来的好，在近地轨道的碎片也干不掉静止通信卫星。
但是， WHO CARES？
所有这些为了帮助推进剧情的”硬伤“是导演为了艺术表达应有的执照。这是电影，不是纪录片。
我在最近的一个活动上听了Neil Armstrong的儿子讲述他父亲的众多优秀品质和很一个很差劲的地方：他根本没法和他爸爸一起看科幻片。他爸爸会一直抱怨如果一个飞机上的仪器放错了地方。他反对太空堡垒的弹射装置，”他们又不是非要空速才能飞？干嘛不把他们直接扔出去。“
我对这位人类先驱充满了敬意，但我不想成为这样。

这只是一个电影而已，一个好电影。

[ 本帖最后由 Viviwill 于 2013-11-23 13:08 编辑 ]

作者: zhaolinjia 时间: 2013-10-24 09:41

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照片喷了

作者: 碎南瓜 时间: 2013-10-24 09:41

头像超喜感，咱们国家机构也这么放松就好了

作者: cc0128 时间: 2013-10-24 09:44

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The pace and story was definitely engaging and I think it was the best use of the 3-D IMAX medium to date.

引人入胜的故事与（紧凑的）节奏,而且我认为这是目前运用3-D IMAX 最好的电影.

作者: Raven 时间: 2013-10-24 10:12

相片赞

作者: mike7882 时间: 2013-10-24 10:15

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这人很幽默

作者: Viviwill 时间: 2013-10-25 08:41

发张NASA自己做的poster...

作者: yii 时间: 2013-10-25 09:52

hat Clooney guy looks just like me!

作者: frostboy123 时间: 2013-10-31 23:00

“Gravity” is the most realistic space movie ever. I mean, that Clooney guy looks just like me!
从头像看起码从头发数量就完败了啊，这家伙是有多喜欢Clooney啊

作者: 79859899 时间: 2013-11-7 10:08

瞧瞧人家多放松..............................

作者: lbyonline 时间: 2013-11-7 15:32

Mark

作者: BeastMa 时间: 2013-11-20 01:29

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终于能看这帖了

作者: 大宋忠臣黄文炳 时间: 2013-11-20 01:36

更像凯奇

作者: 动感超人 时间: 2013-11-20 01:45

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And as my wife put it, when you have a hold of George Clooney, only an idiot would let him go.
喷了233

作者: NewRoaD 时间: 2013-11-20 09:23

明显是没放他走啊，人自己挣脱了走的

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原帖由 动感超人 于 2013-11-20 01:45 发表
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And as my wife put it, when you have a hold of George Clooney, only an idiot would let him go.
喷了233

作者: df3d 时间: 2013-11-20 09:31

让克鲁尼死是导演故意的吧。按照实际失重状态下，只要布鲁克轻轻一拉克鲁尼就可以回来了！
有宇航员说了：
身为男主角，乔治·克鲁尼在片中出场时间很少，角色是啰嗦的灵魂导师，从技术和心灵上指引着桑德拉·布洛克逃生，最感人的一幕则是他舍弃自己堕入太空，把生的希望留给布洛克。

但真正的宇航员又要来戳穿“剧情需要”了，真相其实是，如果在地球上，两个人挂在悬崖边的一棵枯树上，可能真的需要一个人主动放手，牺牲自己成全别人。但这是在太空中啊，克鲁尼只需要轻轻地拉一下绳索，他就可以飞向空间站，根本不会有什么持续的引力把他拖走。即使他放开手，也只是飘在原地不动而已。

[ 本帖最后由 df3d 于 2013-11-20 09:33 编辑 ]

作者: sleepd 时间: 2013-11-20 12:21

这一段确实只能理解为剧情需要了，看的时候我就在想哪里来的引力将克鲁尼拉的死死的……

同样的地方还有桑姐脱宇航服，宇航服里面不可能是热裤小背心，但是我觉得导演这么安排真是太赞了！

作者: 风之勇者 时间: 2013-11-20 12:35

一些适当的改编而不是一味的追求真实无硬伤

才使影片如此牛B

作者: v12 时间: 2013-11-20 18:11

看这照片就知道还有一个硬伤，头盔不是透明的，男女主就算对着也是看不到对方脸的。

作者: wohaihao 时间: 2013-11-20 19:51

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其实克鲁尼就是属于不作死就不会死，妥妥被被自己玩死的。一开始他要不是在那飞来飞去的，也不至于燃料不够

作者: GP_03X 时间: 2013-11-20 20:47

明天要去看了，你们不要剧透啊

作者: dadun80 时间: 2013-11-20 21:09 标题: 回复 20# 的帖子

那个是可以收起来的。但是如果太空里不用金防护面罩的话，几分钟就被阳光闪瞎了。
问题是这片子除了两张脸全是特效啊，脸都遮住了就全是特效了。

作者: whiskeylullaby 时间: 2013-11-20 23:12

好可爱的宇航员！

作者: Viviwill 时间: 2013-11-21 04:29

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原帖由 wohaihao 于 2013-11-20 19:51 发表
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其实克鲁尼就是属于不作死就不会死，妥妥被被自己玩死的。一开始他要不是在那飞来飞去的，也不至于燃料不够

哈哈~~~

作者: potus 时间: 2013-11-21 14:02

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原帖由 wohaihao 于 2013-11-20 19:51 发表
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其实克鲁尼就是属于不作死就不会死，妥妥被被自己玩死的。一开始他要不是在那飞来飞去的，也不至于燃料不够

作者: NewRoaD 时间: 2013-11-21 17:46

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原帖由 @v12 于 2013-11-20 18:11 发表
看这照片就知道还有一个硬伤，头盔不是透明的，男女主就算对着也是看不到对方脸的。

那观众咋办？

作者: 鬼冢英吉 时间: 2013-11-22 22:01

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原帖由 @NewRoaD 于 2013-11-21 17:46 发表
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那观众咋办？

就是嘛，那么贵的片酬怎么也得让她漏漏脸嘛

作者: zichuanle 时间: 2013-11-22 23:04

还有桑姐流泪那幕也不科学，太空流不出眼泪来，就算挤得出来都不会像电影那样飘出来

作者: Tobar 时间: 2013-11-22 23:51

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原帖由 wohaihao 于 2013-11-20 19:51 发表
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其实克鲁尼就是属于不作死就不会死，妥妥被被自己玩死的。一开始他要不是在那飞来飞去的，也不至于燃料不够

我刚看到这哥们在那里玩喷气背包就喷了,妈的当这是玩cod狗哪!

作者: 我爱一条柴啊 时间: 2013-11-23 00:05

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终于敢进引力贴了

作者: Viviwill 时间: 2013-11-23 13:08

看着大批硬伤党出没。。。觉得还是顶一下吧

作者: I_m_PK 时间: 2013-11-23 17:51

桑德拉刚进空间站脱掉宇航服有一个半蜷缩的时间不算短的镜头很美，而且我觉得很有隐喻，象征女性子宫里的新生命诞生的感觉。

作者: wpang 时间: 2013-11-23 19:53

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原帖由 @I_m_PK 于 2013-11-23 17:51 发表
桑德拉刚进空间站脱掉宇航服有一个半蜷缩的时间不算短的镜头很美，而且我觉得很有隐喻，象征女性子宫里的新生命诞生的感觉。

就是
包括最后是从水里爬出来再站起来都是明显的母婴隐喻

作者: zhaolinjia 时间: 2013-11-24 10:37

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原帖由 @I_m_PK 于 2013-11-23 17:51 发表
桑德拉刚进空间站脱掉宇航服有一个半蜷缩的时间不算短的镜头很美，而且我觉得很有隐喻，象征女性子宫里的新生命诞生的感觉。

非常好的回复，点320个赞

作者: 幻飞一线天 时间: 2013-11-24 10:44

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原帖由 dadun80 于 2013-11-20 21:09 发表
那个是可以收起来的。但是如果太空里不用金防护面罩的话，几分钟就被阳光闪瞎了。
问题是这片子除了两张脸全是特效啊，脸都遮住了就全是特效了。

在地球背面，后来才日出。

作者: 拳人类 时间: 2013-12-4 00:36

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原帖由 df3d 于 2013-11-20 09:31 发表
让克鲁尼死是导演故意的吧。按照实际失重状态下，只要布鲁克轻轻一拉克鲁尼就可以回来了！

拉克鲁尼的力也足以把布洛克从那根带子上拉出来了，男主不想让女主冒这个险。

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