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作者: 倍舒爽 时间: 2012-10-9 04:48 标题: Nintendo reps: 'Wii U 19x more powerful than PS3"

Nintendo Reps at Eurogamer Expo claiming 'Wii U 19x more powerful than PS3"
Announced at the last minute and many peoples highlight of the Eurogamer Expo. Nintendo’s new system took its European bow in style in a nicely designed and laid out area featuring a variety of great games. Without question it drew a massive crowd over the entire weekend. Queues to play ZombiU were possibly the longest in the Expo as people waited in line, for hours at a time to get to grips with what most people perceive to be the WiiU’s first killer app.

The actual console is significantly longer than I had anticipated, hinting at the level of power under the hood. Most people in attendance were surprised by this, having probably imagined the device to be about the same size as the original Wii console. Nintendo representatives on the day informed me that it was “19 times more powerful than PS3”. Having spent a decent amount of time with the launch software I doubt these claims, as the games on show at the expo appeared directly comparable to Xbox360 and PS3 titles and certainly no better. Having said that, the games are launch titles and the software can only improve in scope, gameplay and visual flair as developers get to grips with the hardware.

It would be impossible to go any further without discussing the huge innovation that is the WiiU Gamepad. Big? Most certainly, in fact it seems bigger in the flesh than initial press pictures suggested. Unwieldy? Perhaps, although the short bursts of playtime allocated to visitors of the expo really didn’t offer enough time to formulate a valid opinion. Having said that the WiiU Gamepad starts to feel a little more comfortable in the hands after only a few minutes of play. Contours to the rear of the unit fit relatively snugly although not perfectly. The controller features dual analogue sticks, a traditional d-pad, four main face buttons, four shoulder triggers, a pair of stereo speakers, a touch screen interface, gyroscope, camera, microphone, accelerometer, and also supports near field communication allowing it to interact with physical products such as game cards or figurines. Even the most critical observer would have to admit that Nintendo have covered all the bases with this one.

Whilst screen resolution is clearly inferior to other tablet devices like iPad it still delivers a satisfyingly sharp image and looks surprisingly hi-tech for a Nintendo product. Its use as a secondary screen for both single and multiplayer games is truly innovative and was shown off to great effect on the day.

On top of this the WiiU Gamepad can also be used as a portable screen to play entire games, as a substitute to the full size television. This is brilliant news for those of us who share a screen between movie nights, games and television shows. If someone in the house wants to watch television you can simply switch the main game screen to the Gamepad and carry on playing, wirelessly, around your home. This function will of course not work with titles that resolutely depend on having a secondary screen for gameplay requirements.

It seems that the WiiU is attempting to re invent multiplayer group gaming in much the same way that Wii Sports managed. Games involving five players, four of which are using Wiimotes and one using the gamepad and the benefit of their own screen are the staple of Nintendoland. This allows for interesting asymmetric competition in multiplayer titles such as Luigi’s Ghost Mansion.

Ghost Mansion is a ghoulish game of hide and seek. One player takes charge of the ghost character using the Gamepad whilst four other players control Mii characters starting in all four corners of a Bomberman style maze. Character movement initially feels sluggish but it turns out to be a big part of the fun. The ghost character can move more quickly and can see all of the other characters on the Gamepad screen. The four players must work together in an attempt to catch the ghost, who is detectable via vibrations in the Wiimotes and is caught by lighting it up with a torch for a period of time, draining an energy bar. The ghost character meanwhile can win by incapacitating all four of the player characters, who are able to revive eachother when downed. Overall it is a fun and charming multiplayer distraction typical of Nintendo design.

New Super Mario Bros U is entirely as expected. It offers sublime platform game design with exemplary control in a whimsical setting. It looks absolutely gorgeous in 1080p HD format. Need I say any more on the single player experience? Not really.

The multiplayer aspect of NSMBWU follows on from the Wii forerunner and continues to feel anarchic, laboured and truthfully, at odds with the game play requirements of precision platforming. Running at pace towards a sequence of jumps that you know you are perfectly set up to make, only to be scuppered by a lesser player falling into your way and knocking you into a pit is truly annoying. Maybe this way of playing a Mario is fun for a group of drunken casual gamers but I can’t imagine ever wanting to play like this. It’s the platforming equivalent of playing Streetfighter2 against an unskilled button basher, who’s complete lack of understanding of the title makes them impossible to read.

Oppressive, dark, brutal, sinister, terrifying. Words to describe a Nintendo launch title? Not usually, but in the case of ZombiU, Ubisoft Montpellier have succeeded in making hardcore adult gaming a reality on Nintendo’s new machine from day one.

Setting off from a safe house somewhere in the depths of the banks of the Thames, our random survivor picks up a couple of items and heads out into the dark, murky landscape that is post Zombie apocalypse London. Movement controls are exactly as any player would expect of an FPS game with dual sticks taking charge of movement and view angle. The large controller feels perfectly suited to the game and the analogue sticks offer a good degree of control over the characters movement. Using a torch to find a way though the incredibly dark setting it isn’t long before the game forces the player to dispatch with one of the undead horde. After six guttural swings of a cricket bat the lurching enemy is downed, his head in bits all over the floor. Looting his body offers nothing. Moving forward through the dank, dark environment more zombies appear in the distance. The Nintendo assistant informs me that one of the creatures has a bomb strapped to his back and that approaching with a melee weapon would be suicide. Lifting the WiiU gamepad to head height initiates a 360 degree scan of the surrounding area, which offers a great amount of strategic detail. It seems a little like the detective mode in Rocksteady’s recent Arkham games.

Our character collects a sniper rifle and targets the bomb laden zombie. Boom! The zombies are no more and the way forward looks clear. Rushing forward at pace, turning down into a tunnel, perhaps into some sort of area of catacombs he is abruptly pinned by another enemy. This one is too close and the zombie sinks its teeth into flesh. Sudden and permanent death is a recurrent theme of ZombiU. Play switches back to another character, and the fight for survival continues.

ZombiU does look to be very good indeed. Graphically impressive, structurally innovative and also very gruesome, it might just be the true re imagining of the survival horror genre. As franchises like Resident Evil stride further and further towards being action shooters it is refreshing to see a game take terror, darkness and permanent death seriously. This game looks bloody, brain munchingly brilliant.

Other titles playable on the day included Pikmin 3 which looked delightful although I didn’t manage to play it and Rayman Legends, which offers gorgeous, hand drawn characterisation and animation along with really tight single and two-player platforming. Control is perfect and the levels are fun.

The controller was terrific fun to use whilst playing each of the titles on show and gameplay innovations will be plentiful if Nintendo’s current offerings are anything to go by. WiiU might turn out to simply be the machine Nintendo should have released six years ago, something that merely competes with this current generation rather than supersedes it. I doubt it will have the technical grunt to keep up with the upcoming Sony and Microsoft platforms but I don’t doubt that it will deliver interesting and fun gaming experiences.

Never underestimate the Nintendo effect, they can create gaming experiences that are master classes in design and shrug off any need to compete on a technical level. New Zelda and Mario games in 1080p? Yes please, I’m pre ordering one.
Source: http://totalrevue.com/nintendo-wiiu-preview/

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Wii U processing speed low compared to 360, PS3, says Tekken producer
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gami ... ekken-producer.html

Tekken series producer Katsuhiro Harada said that the processor requires some "creative" solutions for Tekken Tag Tournament 2's Wii U version.
© Namco Bandai
"I think maybe the game is coming along smoother than most people would think, as far as the look of the game," he told Digital Spy.
"As far as graphical processing and such, it's not much of an issue. But as far as the CPU goes, the clock is kinda low.
"I guess they're trying to keep power consumption down so we have to come up with creative ways to get around that and that's taking a little bit of time."
When asked whether it was lower than that of the Xbox 360 or PS3, he replied: "Maybe a little bit.
"For example on PS3 it was kind of difficult at first, but if you made good use of the different cores, you could split up the processing tasks and you could achieve very good effects. But this is kind of a different issue than that."
When discussing the progress of the Wii U version, Harada said it is "coming along quite rapidly" and isn't "far behind" the Xbox 360 or PS3 versions.
While a release date cannot be confirmed until a Wii U launch date is announced, Harada would like it out "as close as possible" to the other versions.
It was confirmed at this year's E3 that Snoop Dogg will feature in the game as a non-playable character, having contributed music to the game's soundtrack.
Tekken Tag Tournament 2 will be released for PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 on September 14.
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Dynasty Warriors dev on the Wii U's CPU "challenge"

The producer of the Dynasty Warriors franchise has detailed some of the benefits and difficulties of developing for Nintendo's new Wii U Console.

In a conversation with Eurogamer at the Tokyo Game Show, Tecmo Koei's Akihiro Suzuki explained that the Wii U's three Power PC cores have created difficulties in achieving a similar frame-rate to Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 versions.

"For games in the Warriors series, including Dynasty Warriors and Warriors Orochi, when you have a lot of enemies coming at you at once, the performance tends to be affected because of the CPU," he said. "Dealing with that is a challenge."

The Warriors games are known for large numbers of on-screen characters, and Eurogamer notes that the Wii U demo of Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper did not match the performance of the PlayStation 3. The specifications of the Wii U's CPU are still unknown, but Eurogamer claims that a number of developers other than Suzuki have confirmed that it is slower than the CPUs in the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.

However, Suzuki claims that the Wii U's custom AMD 7 series GPU and IGB of games RAM gives the console an edge over the competition in terms of graphics.

"From a visual standpoint, based on the performance of the Wii U, we knew [Warriors Orochi 3 Hyper] had the capability of having much better graphics than games on PS3 and Xbox 360. Make no mistake, from a visual standpoint, it is able to produce better graphics. So our challenge was to make a higher quality graphics. We were able to meet that."

[ 本帖最后由倍舒爽于 2012-10-9 04:57 编辑 ]

作者: rinlord 时间: 2012-10-9 05:41

'Wii U 19x more powerful than PS3"

Eurogamer claims that a number of developers other than Suzuki have confirmed that it is slower than the CPUs in the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3

作者: maidofhonor 时间: 2012-10-9 05:53

吸引眼球骗点击系列新闻撰写方式。

现在很多新闻的操作方式都是，

由独立博客撰写者提供新闻给大站，

依照点击量决定该作者收入，

于是就有很多独立作者为了点击量制造具争议的新闻，

不管是黑那一方，只要激怒某阵营的粉丝藉由转发布大量到访原始主题，

便可以为该站制造点击量，该站得以向广告主提出年度点击量卖广告，

该作者也能获得大笔收入。

像是Michael Pachter之流，擅长以激怒全球任饭为目标，撩拨仇恨，

也可以说，此货能出名有一半的功劳得归那些任饭。

点击量为一切的今日，爱与恨都是下手的目标，

战得越凶，点击越多；点击越多，有人能得利，就是如此。

作者: 马甲雷01 时间: 2012-10-9 06:49

尤为可笑的是这些目标指向日本企业的新闻却大都是英文写成，来自英文网站……

作者: ryuetsuya 时间: 2012-10-9 07:01

后面2篇文章的可信度是比较高的，在eurogamer上见过
而第一篇我就不说了，完全是博眼球的，这样一篇下来网站点击率又上去了，这网站alexa排名60几万，tgfc都2万多了

作者: foyo 时间: 2012-10-9 07:31

太长了

作者: maidofhonor 时间: 2012-10-9 07:33

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不出所料，才几个小时，各大网站自己撰写新闻，产生了更多、更耸动的大标，

如ZI：

（Zelda Informer，照理说是个任网，但特爱写些撩拨任饭爱恨的大标赚点击，

尤其爱斗Pachter；Pachter放个屁，ZI就当台风了，久了就成任灰了。虚情假意的生意人。）

＂Nintendo Confirms Wii U Much More Powerful Than PS3＂

作者: lsn 时间: 2012-10-9 07:58

19time，就算是下一代PS4或xbox都不会这样高，一看都知道可信度不高

作者: madobenanami 时间: 2012-10-9 09:52

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打死不信

作者: maidofhonor 时间: 2012-10-9 09:59

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辟谣了，原来是个Show Girl说的。。。

看吧。

作者: finalx 时间: 2012-10-9 14:42

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19倍。。。上次说3倍的泥马才是任黑啊

作者: netnight 时间: 2012-10-9 17:51

引用:

原帖由 ryuetsuya 于 2012-10-9 07:01 发表
后面2篇文章的可信度是比较高的，在eurogamer上见过
而第一篇我就不说了，完全是博眼球的，这样一篇下来网站点击率又上去了，这网站alexa排名60几万，tgfc都2万多了

Eurogamer 之前就发了不少偏激, 又用 WiiU 作题材的文章来吸引眼球
特别是当初的 "WiiU 图像能力相近 PS3/X360" 就被转到 A9 了
其实文中只是所反映的说出 Wii U 版的Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed 与其他主机图像相近罢了, 而不是说 WiiU 本身的图像能力
"Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed Wii U graphics on-par with PlayStation 3 version, “maybe even better”
其后, Eurogamer 改题目改为 "Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed 的 WiiU 图像相近 PS3 版本, 甚至更好"
之前 Eurogamer 向 WiiU 发出误导性文章而道歉
当然, 之前 "WiiU 图像能力相近 PS3/X360" 的吸引标题立刻被利用为 A9 的最佳取材对象,
引起了 A9 多少点击率, 吸引多少饭在花时间发生口战........

所以, 任天堂的新闻我只相信一些官方渠道
https://www.facebook.com/Nintendo
https://twitter.com/#!/Nintendo
http://www.youtube.com/nintendo
http://www.youtube.com/nintendodirectch
暂时比较好的外国任站 :
http://gonintendo.com/ (更新很快)
http://nintendoeverything.com/ (更新很快)
http://www.nintendolife.com/
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/

引用:

Eurogamer Apologizes For Misleading Wii U Graphics Headline
Eurogamer have revised their headline that claimed Sega said Wii U graphics are on-par with current generation consoles. Now they make it clear that developer Sumo Digital was actually referring to the graphics of the Wii U version of Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, rather than the Wii U console’s graphics. Eurogamer apologizes for the confusion that the original article has caused.

Eurogamer’s Revised Headline: Sega: Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed Wii U graphics on-par with PlayStation 3 version, “maybe even better”

UPDATE: We’ve updated the headline of this article to better reflect the content of the story. Sega was referring to the visuals of Sonic and Sega All-Stars Racing Transformed on Wii U compared to the visuals of the other versions, not the graphics capabilities of the Wii U itself. Sorry for the confusion this has caused.

[ 本帖最后由 netnight 于 2012-10-9 17:58 编辑 ]

作者: 塌方 时间: 2012-10-9 17:59

看公交不是说是展台的妞说的么。。。

作者: James_T.Kirk 时间: 2012-10-9 18:14

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有可能是盐田的小三，总之可信度极高

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