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作者: killmesoftly 时间: 2012-2-23 20:59 标题: 看来AMD要通吃下一代的索软了

Sony Has New Console In The Works, AMD Building Graphics

Sony has a new console in the works.

Sony is working on an as-yet-unannounced new gaming console, former AMD employees say, and the processor designer may play a key role in the new product.

AMD’s graphics technology is already used in Microsoft’s XBox 360 console. However, Sony’s PlayStation 3 — introduced in 2006 — relies on graphics technology from Nvidia.

For the full story, click here to read our profile of Advanced Micro Devices from the March 12 issue of FORBES magazine.

AMD declined to comment on the project. Sony Chief Transformation Officer George Bailey also declined to discuss Sony’s new console, or even acknowledge its existence.

However, at AMD’s analyst day last month, AMD Chief Financial Officer Thomas Seifert identified gaming as one of several trends that will drive revenue growth at AMD in 2012.

作者: jiaolu 时间: 2012-2-23 21:06

还有加上wiiU

作者: dragonzet 时间: 2012-2-23 21:11

AMD温控非常好。。AMD从5系开始就是一代神卡

作者: csimd 时间: 2012-2-23 21:13

真心觉得索尼和微软出一个主机算了

作者: 历史厨 时间: 2012-2-23 21:13

农企这样也好,至少不至于开不了锅了. 而老黄看来是铁了心从图形转主攻arm,soc,和计算方面的政府订单.

作者: 小闹钟 时间: 2012-2-23 21:24

看来PS4是无法兼容PS3游戏了，不过PS4会当着HD版骗钱

作者: dragonzet 时间: 2012-2-23 21:38

PS4不需要兼容PS3 PS3到时候会卖的跟PS2一样好，没准还能在日本继续月压XBOX8呢

作者: 自恋王 时间: 2012-2-23 21:47

可惜AMD的CPU实在太令人失望了，连续两代打不过i7，现在够上i5中端的尾巴就欢天喜地……遥想当年AMD先于intel推出原生64位处理器时是多么的意气风发。

作者: 历史厨 时间: 2012-2-23 23:04

农企技术上最辉煌的时期是99年Athlon横空出世的时候,当时从Slot A到Socket A, K7很长一段时间压制着对手. 到Athlon64的时候已经不是技术领先,只是一点marketing和早接纳X86-64的小聪明而已了.

作者: hudihutian 时间: 2012-2-23 23:10

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原帖由 历史厨 于 2012-2-23 23:04 发表
农企技术上最辉煌的时期是99年Athlon横空出世的时候,当时从Slot A到Socket A, K7很长一段时间压制着对手. 到Athlon64的时候已经不是技术领先,只是一点marketing和早接纳X86-64的小聪明而已了.

那是AMD高层的功劳，收购ALPHA的遗产

作者: 段暄 时间: 2012-2-23 23:20

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原帖由 dragonzet 于 2012-2-23 21:11 发表
AMD温控非常好。。AMD从5系开始就是一代神卡

温控方面3系就开始神了.

作者: 段暄 时间: 2012-2-23 23:21

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原帖由 自恋王 于 2012-2-23 21:47 发表
可惜AMD的CPU实在太令人失望了，连续两代打不过i7，现在够上i5中端的尾巴就欢天喜地……遥想当年AMD先于intel推出原生64位处理器时是多么的意气风发。

难怪有人喊amd已死

作者: 野生的任豚 时间: 2012-2-23 23:35

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主要是温控和能耗

作者: 昵称无效 时间: 2012-2-24 00:28

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原帖由 @段暄于 2012-2-23 23:20 发表
温控方面3系就开始神了.

滚烫的4系high了

作者: csimd 时间: 2012-2-24 00:54

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原帖由 @历史厨于 2012-2-23 23:04 发表
农企技术上最辉煌的时期是99年Athlon横空出世的时候,当时从Slot A到Socket A, K7很长一段时间压制着对手. 到Athlon64的时候已经不是技术领先,只是一点marketing和早接纳X8664的小聪明而已了.

k7的性能功耗比并没有领先，只有k8才是

作者: u571 时间: 2012-2-24 07:25

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原帖由 dragonzet 于 2012-2-23 21:11 发表
AMD温控非常好。。AMD从5系开始就是一代神卡

HD4系温度高的真是吓人，蓝宝4850经常能破85度

作者: 卖哥 时间: 2012-2-24 19:35

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A是新工艺功耗很好，同代工艺的第二代产品功耗就不怎么了。
N是新工艺第一代功耗不佳，但是第二代改善明显。

作者: dragonzet 时间: 2012-2-24 19:42

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原帖由 u571 于 2012-2-24 07:25 发表

HD4系温度高的真是吓人，蓝宝4850经常能破85度

这话你应该对名嘴说。。。。。4时代我还是老黄的拥簇。。。

作者: 火彩 时间: 2012-2-24 20:05

ivy马上要出了，接下来能够打败高端i3就欢天喜地了......
年底要出推土机的下一代不晓得会怎么样，撇嘴，技术储备啊，技术储备。跟intel完全不是一个数量级的，那几年的小聪明和相对领先啥也没换来。

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原帖由 自恋王 于 2012-2-23 21:47 发表
可惜AMD的CPU实在太令人失望了，连续两代打不过i7，现在够上i5中端的尾巴就欢天喜地……遥想当年AMD先于intel推出原生64位处理器时是多么的意气风发。

作者: asdqwe 时间: 2012-2-24 21:18

顺便问1下现在换cpu和显卡合适么？
还是等2个月？

作者: ferrerorun 时间: 2012-2-25 01:17

打桩机要比推土机厉害但究竟厉害多少不清楚

前两天看到新闻打桩机用上了某收购公司牛逼的技术可以有效提高主频同时又能良好的控制功耗

希望AMD能好起来

作者: 段暄 时间: 2012-2-25 02:15

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原帖由火彩于 2012-2-24 20:05 发表
ivy马上要出了，接下来能够打败高端i3就欢天喜地了......
年底要出推土机的下一代不晓得会怎么样，撇嘴，技术储备啊，技术储备。跟intel完全不是一个数量级的，那几年的小聪明和相对领先啥也没换来。

这一刻很想知道那些开发intel处理器的以色列团队的工作事迹

amd这一代玩不赢，下一代下两代再发力，无力回天的话，a系显卡能捞够本也不错了
apu不算差，处理能力超频能力和图形处理能力加上性价比，少赚点罢了

作者: Minstrelboy 时间: 2012-2-25 10:43

现在AMD只剩下APU和显示芯片意气风发，虽然有干爹IBM支持，可惜在主战场台式机中高端CPU上被英特尔日出屎来，而且最重要的市场移动设备上也看不到AMD有何表现，看着ARM数钱到手软；大型机市场以及专业显卡市场完败于Nvidia，身为A饭不得不说按摩店自己作死。
如果本传言属实，那就是说AMD拿下三家游戏主机厂的GPU订单，不然真的完蛋了

[ 本帖最后由 Minstrelboy 于 2012-2-25 10:44 编辑 ]

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2012-2-25 11:16

CPU一塌糊涂，不过还好，估计下代机都是异构运算，傻快就行，CPU要求没那么苛刻。

作者: 火彩 时间: 2012-2-25 11:44

是说疯到4G那个技术吧......成品不出来前啥也不好说啊，intel这边都开始入手准备14nm了。不知道AMD到时候制程方面能否跟得上，就算用了这火星科技，到时候良率、漏电率、电子迁移这些处理不好一样纱布了。我看不如去抱干爹大腿，贴微软屁股。让前者给点小阴招优化布线布局，后者支援个win8推土机原生支持啥的来的实际

本打算今年升级个4A平台，推土机这尿性来看，我还是继续攒钱拼ivy+ATI平台好了。

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原帖由 ferrerorun 于 2012-2-25 01:17 发表
打桩机要比推土机厉害但究竟厉害多少不清楚
前两天看到新闻打桩机用上了某收购公司牛逼的技术可以有效提高主频同时又能良好的控制功耗
希望AMD能好起来

作者: zhuliang 时间: 2012-2-25 20:16

喷AMD真的没必要,规模差INTEL太多,就算技术拼得过传统商业渠道上也被压制得死死的,K8时代大家都看得到.
INTEL属于典型的店大欺客,MS被INTEL跟NV坑过一次了,SONY也被NV坑过一次,所以下代主机肯定没人找他们的,

作者: 愤怒的双翼 时间: 2012-3-1 08:23

月经

Kotaku Rumor: PlayStation 4 Ditching The Cell Processor
Feb 29, 2012

ps死抛弃“细胞处理器"

http://kotaku.com/5889410/playst ... -some-wild-theories

The PlayStation 4 will not use Sony's Cell processor nor any possible successor to the vaunted chipset that was introduced to the world through the PlayStation 3, gaming industry sources tell Kotaku.

What we're hearing from sources follow a Forbes rumor last week that chip-maker AMD would make the graphics chip for a PS4, a shift from the PS3's use of a graphics chip from AMD rival Nvidia.

The abandonment of the Cell architecture would thrill the many game developers who have struggled with the complex chipset, but it could also be viewed as the admission of a mistake.

Cell was the pet project of PlayStation creator Ken Kutaragi, who dreamed that the chip—a "Power Processing Element" married to eight "Synergistic Processing Elements"—would make the PS3 the most impressive gaming console ever. He spoke of a home equipped with multiple devices that were powered by Cell, all of them linking to each other to increase the computational power driving any of the devices.

Cell was not the revolution Sony hoped and hyped that it would be. It also never managed to make the PS3 appear to be significantly more powerful than the year-older Xbox 360. That could have been the Cell's fault or simply the result of development decisions that compelled game creators to make their games run on both the PS3 and the generally-more-popular Xbox 360.

But with no Cell or Cell successor in the PS4, what would Sony do? Here's where the reporting turns to speculation. One theory I've heard is that AMD will provide both the CPU and GPU for the PS4, meaning that AMD, not Sony, would engineer the main processing and graphics chips for the machine. Should AMD be doing that, they could go with the AMD Fusion architecture, which puts CPU and GPU on the same chip. AMD has already been putting chips like this out (one was considered for the MacBook Air), which would enable Sony to turn to developers and say: you could be working with the PS4 architecture right now; just work on an AMD Llano chip or something. Would developers like that? They'd have to prefer it to Cell and—what do you know—here's one of gaming history's best programmers, id's John Carmack, saying in an interview with PC Perspective last year that AMD Fusion-style chip architecture is "almost a forgone conclusion" for the future of computing.

A Sony rep declined to comment on this story, citing the company's policy not to comment on rumors and speculation.

Sony hasn't even acknowledged the existence of the PlayStation 4 let alone detailed the guts within it. But we're beginning to hear trickles of information about Sony's next gen. It's all vaguer than the talk for next Xbox, code-named Durango, which Microsoft has been showing to publisher and developer partners.

The lack of chatter on PS4 would suggest that Sony will once again put its next console out after Microsoft. But if the chipset for the PS4 is actually one that already exists, then aspiring PS4 developers might find themselves capable of ramping up for this new machine faster than expected. And if that happens, the code-named Durango, probable for 2013, might have a sparring partner from Sony sooner than we thought.

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