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标题: [业评] 【剧透醒目】NO MORE HEROES 超神作啊!!! [打印本页]

作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 10:48     标题: 【剧透醒目】NO MORE HEROES 超神作啊!!!

虽然有点火星,但我一定要发点感受

我周日开玩,昨晚12点通关,N年没有长时间这么专注地玩一个游戏了!

游戏极尽KUSO之能事,开头OTAKU主角摸海报上LOLI然后猥琐的回眸说“MOE~”,我当时就喷了,233

看游戏介绍我还以为和MAD WORLD差不多的杀杀杀,但实际玩起来却有趣N倍,建议一定玩美版,日版和谐太多了

BOSS一个比一个更有个性,甚至RANK 5的BOSS还没打就被XX直接过关,233

这游戏移植PS3/360后绝对失去WII版的原味,战斗时的双截棍挥方向斩首+各种抱摔就不说了,每次接骚loli的手机,声音是直接从WII棒的喇叭里发出的,玩的时候不由自主的将WII棒当成手机做接听的动作,233

以上只是说了些皮毛,还有N多有趣+KUSO的地方,请自己去感受吧

而真正让我觉得此作变超神作的是最后一战+真结局(网上的剧情介绍全是皮毛,玩到最后你才知道背景真相,以下剧透,18禁):


主角的老爸和老妈被人杀了,主角受了精神刺激,失去了记忆,变成了死宅OTAKU

有天宅得腻了,带上所有积蓄去酒吧,遇上个双马尾的loli搭讪,死宅就高潮了,于是就和马尾loli买醉,主角喝倒后说了句醉话“那个婊子...夺走了我关爱的一切...我现在啥都没了”,马尾loli说了句“复仇的话,我可以帮你哟”

死宅钱花完了,得找工作,在马尾loli安排下主角进入了UAA(全美杀手联合会),参加从第11名往第1名的RANKING DEATH MATCH,奖励是让主角和她“做一次”,实际上是为主角最终复仇做的安排,GAME BEGINS...

当死宅与RANK NO.1的BOSS---DARK STAR(KUSO星战)面对面时,DARK STAR说他是主角的老爸,然后引诱主角恢复了记忆:在那个闷热的晚上,爸妈被肢解在血泊中(他爸的眼睛和阳具都被割掉了),旁边站着一个露出苍白笑容、手拿菜刀、只穿了内衣的loli!--- 他爸说这是主角曾经深爱的女孩!

突然间,DARK STAR被人从后面一拳击穿---真正的最终BOSS现身了---一个身材姣好穿紧身比基尼的少女----JEANE! (和主角的爱猫名字一样)

主角要JEANE说出她是谁,JEANE说:说出来,这游戏的评级会飙升,发售会延期,NO MORE HEROES可能就变成NO MORE HEROES FOREVER...
主角再次强烈要求,JEANE就用快放的形式说了一遍,游戏里没人能听清楚,但录下来慢放的话就能听
下面就是游戏的精华部分,我们的主角听到崩溃:

[Fast forward segment begins.]

Jeane: You are my half-brother. You know that manga called "Miyuki"? The
       Japanese one? Well, it's like that. Your father abandoned my mother to
       run off with your mother. It broke her heart beyond repair. She killed
       herself. Knowing I had nowhere to go, he took advantage of me. Ever
       since I can remember, he molested me. We lived in this rotten apartment
       and I was his slave. Every day, I cursed his soul. I swore that I would
       kill him one day. But cursing didn't change anything. That's when I
       decided to become a killer. With no money to pay for training, I paid
       with my body. But to you? I bet that son of a bitch looked like a
       hard-working family man. That was an all act. He didn't give two shits
       about cleaning up my life. So I decided to clean it up myself. That's
       why I do what I do. And I got what I wanted. Killing him in front of
       your very eyes...That's my story.

[Fast forward segment ends.]



我来翻译下:


你是我的同父异母的哥哥,你知道有个日本漫画叫“美雪美雪”吗?和那差不多。你爸抛弃了我妈,跟你妈跑路了,我妈伤心欲绝,自杀了,你爸知道我没处可去,就趁机占有了我,从我能记事的那天起,他就每天猥亵我,我被养在一间破烂公寓里,而我就是他的性奴隶,每一天,我都在诅咒他的灵魂,我发誓我终有一天会杀了他,但诅咒没任何用,所以我决定变成一个杀手,没钱交训练费,我就用肉体去支付。而在你面前,那狗娘养的扮演的是个绝世好爸爸吧,那都是装出来的。他从不理会我的人生变得一塌糊涂,而我只有自己去收拾,这就是我为什么要做,而且我做到了,在你眼前杀掉他...这就是我的故事,哥哥

接下来就是日本武士刀对中国功夫的精彩对决,当JEANE一拳刺进主角的胸口时,主角之前刀下留情的高中女忍者从天而降,砍断了JEANE的手...主角趁机举刀----

主角: 对不起,Jeane,我也很痛苦

Jeane:  毕竟我们...都是杀手,我...也受够了...

主角: 是时候休息下了,Jeane.

Jeane: 晚安,哥哥

主角: 我希望你能做个好梦

XXXXXXX,Jeane 被主角劈成了3段...

马尾loli在角落里偷偷一瞥后离开

以上是结局,呵呵,还没完,更崩溃的真结局在后面:

主角回到公寓上大号,一个SB冲进来要劈他(因为主角现在RANK NO.1,想杀他的人排班...)

突然,之前XX了RANK 5 BOSS的风衣男出现了,一刀劈了SB,主角正要感谢,风衣男却叫他出来决斗

原来,风衣男是主角的孪生哥哥,马尾loli的丈夫,马尾loli早是人妻了,因为马尾loli和主角很亲密---吃醋了...两人就这样一直打斗下去...

STAFF后,马尾人妻带着一个小女孩(可能是人妻的女儿)在美术馆看画展,而小女孩在描绘风衣男和主角打斗的画前迟迟不愿离开,马尾人妻说:“You like this painting, don't you? Let's go, Jeane.”

TO BE CONTINUED

以上一代完

[ 本帖最后由 chenke 于 2010-4-29 10:50 编辑 ]
作者: 地狱女武神    时间: 2010-4-29 11:02

这游戏是神作,毫无疑问。
PS:Wii版最高(美版)
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 11:13

补充下:

在主角失去记忆前,Jeane是主角的GF,然后杀了主角的爸妈

家庭乱伦剧啊...
作者: EVAMRX    时间: 2010-4-29 11:15

Jeane到底死了还是没死啊,最后那小女孩到底是谁,马尾又是谁?

这游戏我还没玩.......
作者: EVAMRX    时间: 2010-4-29 11:16

引用:
原帖由 chenke 于 2010-4-29 11:13 发表
补充下:

在主角失去记忆前,Jeane是主角的GF,然后杀了主角的爸妈

家庭乱伦剧啊...
Jeane不是一直被关着么,怎么当的主角GF?
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 11:23

恩,可能有点描述误会,loli通称14岁以下吧,有点乳房也能叫loli

马尾是游戏的女主角,UAA的秘书工作,一直在引诱主角

Jeane发育后老爸就没关她,她跑出去学杀手,然后勾引主角,当了主角的GF,趁晚上杀了主角双亲
:D
作者: 风之勇者    时间: 2010-4-29 11:27

1的日版玩了2关放弃,MB太和谐了
作者: conansick    时间: 2010-4-29 11:29

单从玩的角度,我觉得2要比1好很多,剧情只能通过各种途径略知一二...
作者: tlwbz    时间: 2010-4-29 11:32

2代还没通,谁来把2代的剧情翻译下就好了
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 11:35

2我刚开始玩到RANK 10,暂不评论,不太满意1代的GTA城市模式取消了...
作者: sdwawa    时间: 2010-4-29 11:51

确实很神,1代和同学一起玩的超H,可惜女BOSS很少,
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 11:58

Dr. Peace 在棒球場唱的那首歌
就是 Jeane 的故事

Lyrics:
Despair, The End of the World
I Hear The Rising Phoenix In My Dream.
And The Virgin Child Made A Wish Upon a Star,
That Night Her Mother Talks no More.

Cape of Hope The End of the Dream
A Shining Fish Splashes in a Stream
And The Virgin Child Loses Her Heart and Soul
That Night Her Mother's Eyes See no More.

When the Wind Blows, a Virgin Child Comes Sing A Song.
Such a Pretty Melody Never Heard Before.

No More Lullabies.
The Virgin Child Smiles From Hell.

Written by Suda51 for the Wii title 'No More Heroes' and performed by Brad Holmes
作者: lyt777    时间: 2010-4-29 12:01

引用:
原帖由 chenke 于 2010-4-29 11:35 发表
2我刚开始玩到RANK 10,暂不评论,不太满意1代的GTA城市模式取消了...
1代的城市绝对是败笔,GTA的都市可以看风景,可以做任务,而NMH的都市,基本就只能用来浪费时间。

不过说实话我觉得这游戏的剧情相当的无厘头,不过BOSS的个性设定还不错,最乐的还是那个COS超人……
作者: kony    时间: 2010-4-29 12:31

引用:
原帖由 chenke 于 2010-4-29 11:35 发表
2我刚开始玩到RANK 10,暂不评论,不太满意1代的GTA城市模式取消了...
我没有WII,玩的360版,每次进入城市那个Loading啊,足有两三分钟,就算安装到硬盘也一样,想存盘也很不方便,真TM想摔手柄
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 12:38

WII用硬盘玩,读盘速度飞快,呵呵

S1有人做了人物关系图

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作者: kevinpank    时间: 2010-4-29 12:53

家庭伦理爱情悲剧动作片...
作者: 我不懂    时间: 2010-4-29 13:08

早就说过这游戏是神作了!
作者: equal    时间: 2010-4-29 13:15

卧槽,这游戏是穿越剧啊?
作者: 316606722    时间: 2010-4-29 13:35

乡下小小装机工认为这个是人妻的YY故事吧?
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 14:03

刚才重温了下RANK 6的手雷女,很多对白都在暗示啊,这段BOSS战的演出很赞

[Travis' cell phone is ringing.]

Sylvia: Travis hello? The secret beach is up ahead... Then it's ranking match
        time. Win, and you'll be number six. Lose, and your new home will be in
        the flaming tombs of hell. Everything OK? How's that sharp pain in your
        neck? Bladder in a bind? Have you trimmed your nose hairs? When you're
        ready, step inside. You know, you've been quite cocky lately. Well,
        more than the usual dose of self assuredness. You think that being
        ranked seventh means your hot shit, don't you? And you're just raring
        to go... You've gone from dumb to dumber. Watching your meteoric rise
        of stupidity is truly painful to observe. That careless attitude of
        yours will be your undoing! And with that... I am 500% certain you will
        die this time, but trust your Force, and head for the Garden of
        Madness...

[Holly Summers' introduction scene.]

Holly: Do you like fighting?

Travis: Yup.

Holly: Do you like killing?

Travis: Live for it.

Holly: Do you like fear?

Travis: Can't say... Never felt it.

Holly: Do you accept death?

Travis: Death? Never crossed my mind.

Holly: Death is the only truth. You are still a mere bud.

Travis: That's not a good thing, you know... Seeking meaning in everything.
        Especially killing. That's a bad habit among smart little girls these
        days.

Holly: Come closer and you will understand everything.

Travis: I'm ready. Anywhere, anytime!

Holly: Just your ordinary assassin... Such a disappointment.

Travis: Are you in the mood yet? Normal assassins don't shoot the shit like
        this. They see their target... And kill them!

[Travis runs towards Holly but falls into a pit hole instead.]

Holly: Let's see you get out of this predicament.

Travis: No prob. You'll see.

Holly: Uh-huh.

[Holly tosses a grenade into the hole.]

Holly: A bud that will never blossom... A sad truth. Good night, my sweet 7th.

[Holly tosses three more grenades into the hole.]

Travis: Oh crap.

[Travis bounces upwards from the hole due to the explosions.]

Travis: Nice trap. I like your style. Maybe I can steal a kiss before I steal
        your life.

Holly: We'll see about that.

[The fight begins and ends. Travis points his beam katana towards Holly's face.]

Holly: What is this?

[Travis backs off.]

Holly: This is not mercy. You can't kill a woman? Pathetic. If you can't kill a
       woman, you are less than a thug. You'll never make it to the top. That's
       OK. I seem to have a thing for stupid pathetic men like you. I can
       accept defeat if it comes from your hand. I will let you in on a
       secret... Assassins must die when they lose. Open your eyes and never
       look back. Promise... Never forget me.


Travis: Huh?

Holly: Thank you. The moment you hesitated... I felt your embrace.

[Holly pulls a grenade's pin off.]

Travis: Hold up!

Holly: Academics like to fantasize too, you know.

[Holly bites the grenade.]

Travis: Wait! Number Six! No!

{Holly's head is blown off.]

Travis: Forgive me... Number six. I never meant to shame you.

[Travis hugs Holly's standing corpse.]

[Sylvia is waiting with Talbot and Webber.]

Sylvia: Not a very smooth victory there, Travis. But a win is a win. That's all
        that matters. I hate to award you this, but you are now 6th in rank.

Travis: What was her name?

Sylvia: That is not important anymore.

Travis: You're right. But I owe her at least that.

Sylvia: Holly Summers. Born in...

Travis: No. ...Just her name.

[Travis carries her body towards a hole dug in the sand.]

Travis: Forgive me, Holly. I was late in saying this... But I love your soul.
        Rest in peace.

[Travis drops Holly's body into the hole.]
作者: clarkcc    时间: 2010-4-29 14:29

posted by wap

360版读盘让人崩溃啊
作者: 昵称无效    时间: 2010-4-29 14:36

对这个游戏唯一有映像的就是其烂无比的游戏过程和剧情,以及那把琴弓一样的光剑
作者: zy19811005    时间: 2010-4-29 16:42

==》:建议一定玩美版,日版和谐太多了

求问日版和谐了哪些啊

我打的XO版的日版,这游戏目前没美版啊,XO的照样血满屏幕飞,感觉没和谐啊

难道LZ说的专门指WII的日版被和谐了?
作者: 地狱女武神    时间: 2010-4-29 17:39

引用:
原帖由 zy19811005 于 2010-4-29 16:42 发表
==》:建议一定玩美版,日版和谐太多了

求问日版和谐了哪些啊

我打的XO版的日版,这游戏目前没美版啊,XO的照样血满屏幕飞,感觉没和谐啊

难道LZ说的专门指WII的日版被和谐了?
这游戏只有360的日版没和谐,Wii和P3的都悲剧了。
作者: solbadguy    时间: 2010-4-29 18:08

手感,画面,帧数,招式,读盘,死机,无一不是垃圾的超级垃圾,因为几句YY台词变成了神作,很好,难怪魔女才卖20W。
作者: 泡泡嘴    时间: 2010-4-29 18:20

wii版才是神作,发泄度不是xo、ps3版能比的,每关boss战前,sylvia打来电话,按摩棒里传来电话声,那感觉真是不错。

不过wii版也有缺点:令人作呕的极不稳定的帧率
作者: zy19811005    时间: 2010-4-29 18:26

这游戏看了下
3张电话卡特典可真TMD的贵
XO和P3各对应的画册却便宜

有点想买了:D
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-4-29 19:29

引用:
原帖由 solbadguy 于 2010-4-29 18:08 发表
手感,画面,帧数,招式,读盘,死机,无一不是垃圾的超级垃圾,因为几句YY台词变成了神作,很好,难怪魔女才卖20W。
WII的手感、画面、帧数、招式都很爽,用硬盘玩读盘飞快,从没死机,敢情你玩的360/P3版吧

[ 本帖最后由 chenke 于 2010-4-30 08:00 编辑 ]
作者: 烏鴉    时间: 2010-4-29 19:57

安达党因为某关键词偶然路过……
作者: mmff    时间: 2010-4-29 21:28

当年因为太和谐玩不下去的路过。。
现在却没时间玩了。

杯具啊。。
作者: 阿当    时间: 2010-5-3 14:18

准备试试
作者: 2342    时间: 2010-5-3 23:03

我玩的wii版满屏锯齿
作者: tntforbrain    时间: 2010-5-3 23:49

楼主写的东西早就知道了。

不过我当年玩的时候就有个疑问,既然主角在回忆中都看到父母被肢解,为何后来还出现了个dark star看起来那么的健康?(游戏里就是随便找个魔化之类的理由含混去了)不过后来看到2代里被切成两半的spark man复出我就释然了,这游戏没啥不可能的...

这游戏的剧情就是一些台词比较神,2代的剧情比起1代来说更直白了...(1代其实就很直白了)

赞的不是游戏的手感,打击感,这些no more heroes都很一般般(2代稍微好了点),赞的是游戏的风格,还有与boss的对话,内容很吊很卡通式装13。

这游戏属于小成本制作,没办法搞的那么牛,以小成本游戏来说,这游戏算是不错了。

另外不知道是不是地板的缘故,我玩的1代丢帧,读盘什么的都很慢,比如S女每次打电话过来都要读盘读个半天,估计换成硬盘能好很多。

2代也有丢帧(某些复仇关卡敌人无限刷,那帧丢的邪乎了),不过2代感觉比1代好,起码没有那浪费时间的大地图了...

2代个人感觉有一些剧情真是无厘头到爆了,1代的无厘头起码感觉还能解释解释...不过2代里那个BT超人被切成两半后一半具有一个人格的这个设计还是挺233max的。

1代的龙师傅的台词很基,到了2代,直接变成了基的一个教练了,233.

[ 本帖最后由 tntforbrain 于 2010-5-4 00:06 编辑 ]
作者: tntforbrain    时间: 2010-5-4 00:18

Holly: This is not mercy. You can't kill a woman? Pathetic. If you can't kill a
       woman, you are less than a thug. You'll never make it to the top. That's
       OK. I seem to have a thing for stupid pathetic men like you. I can
       accept defeat if it comes from your hand. I will let you in on a
       secret... Assassins must die when they lose. Open your eyes and never
       look back. Promise... Never forget me.

楼主,我有个问题想问下,holly summer的这段对话到底暗示什么了?我没觉得有什么奇怪的地方啊。

难道是指不杀女人无法成为NO.1?holly summer自己就是个女人,她说自己也很正常啊。

另:holly的声音老的可以了,简直跟大妈有一拼...

另外,我不觉得对战holly summer的演出性很好,我个人感觉这一战其实蛮无聊的...也很拖沓,唯一留下印象的就是这段战斗剧情的无厘头程度,炸弹导弹满天飞却没多大杀伤力,她自曝后,travis抱着她的无头尸体,想问她的名字,S女刚想仔细说她的身世,他就打断了,说我只要问名字,然后给holly挖个坑,说了一番话,感觉台词还很真切,很怀念holly,结果就把holly的尸体往坑里一扔,我233max,travis你真的对她印象深刻么?

另外,我记得美雪美雪的女主角与男主角其实本质上血缘没有啥关系...

[ 本帖最后由 tntforbrain 于 2010-5-4 00:28 编辑 ]
作者: kony    时间: 2010-5-4 09:40

360 的读盘速度彻底的打消了俺继续打这个游戏的念头。。。。MLGB 我已经N年没碰过这么杯具的读盘速度了
作者: chenke    时间: 2010-5-4 09:48

1、dark star 看成他老爸的GHOST就OK了
2、WII一定要用硬盘玩,读盘飞快,基本感觉不到丢帧,很爽
3、2代前天通关了,总体来说不及1代剧情好,就是最后一幕让人有点诧异而已
4、holly summer这战是个铺垫,不然最后主角怎么能做到杀妹妹眼都不眨一下
5、美雪美雪我都忘记剧情是啥了




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