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作者: 小JJ和大MM 时间: 2009-9-26 03:47 标题: Top Gear对两段法拉利458视频的评论

GT5和FORZA3的458视频在法拉利官网都有
http://www.ferrari.com/English/F ... /FerrariTVHome.aspx

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-ne ... -tribute-2009-09-24

This is a tribute

We expect to see Gran Turismo 5 before Christmas. No, more than that, we demand it. Demand!

We’ve been waiting for years and the Prologue wasn’t enough. We need the full game, full internet connectivity, racing leagues, hundreds of cars, the lot, all in hi-res glory.

Videos like this, a dedication to the new 458 Ferrari by Gran Turismo’s creators Polyphony, just make us more frustrated.

It’s sensational, of course, and it’s interesting to compare it with Forza’s tribute. While Polyphony’s is artistic, zooms right in on tiny details like the individual bulbs on the tail lights, Forza’s is all about action and drama, and lacks the subtletly of the Gran Turismo effort. But that’s Forza for you – a good game but an arcade game, where GT5 will be more a simulation.

We can’t wait, Sony, so enough of the trailers enough of the dedications, let’s get a launch date and let’s get playing.

A rumour has just broken that it won't be out until March 2010, which just isn't good enough. But that's unofficial as yet, so when the news breaks, you’ll read it here first.

So for now, watch the awesome video...

我们希望在圣诞节之前能够见到GT5。啊不，不仅仅是这样，我们要求在圣诞节之前能够见到GT5。强烈要求！
我们已经等了好些年，GT5P还不够过瘾。我们需要一个完整的游戏，有着网络连接、赛车联盟、数百辆车、车库，统统都用着高清的壮丽表现出来。
这么一个视频，这么一个由GT开发方PD制作向新的法拉利458致敬的视频，只会令我们更加垂头丧气。
这太了不起了。把Forza的那个版本跟其对比一下，是很有趣的事情。PD做出来的充满了艺术感，把好像尾灯上的单个灯泡放大出来展现最微妙的细节。 Forza的就只是动作性和戏剧化，缺少GT里头的各种微妙之处。但这就是Forza，一个好游戏，一个街机一般的好游戏；而GT才是模拟驾驶。
索尼，我们不能再等了。预告片够多了，快点宣布游戏上市日期让我们开始玩这个游戏。

作者: mitsuna 时间: 2009-9-26 04:44

作为汽车媒体他们话说的太狠了，直接这样转贴在电玩论坛总觉得对不起forza玩家，楼主我认真的这么觉得。

作者: mitsuna 时间: 2009-9-26 04:45

另外今天GTTV里的topgear视频下载没有了，怎么回事？

作者: 江户川柯南 时间: 2009-9-26 06:37

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We are factual... Not entertainment

作者: west2046 时间: 2009-9-26 07:03

引用:

原帖由 mitsuna 于 2009-9-26 04:44 发表
作为汽车媒体他们话说的太狠了，直接这样转贴在电玩论坛总觉得对不起forza玩家，楼主我认真的这么觉得。

http://bbs.tgfc.com/thread-6119703-1-1.html

作者: samchen0079 时间: 2009-9-26 07:11

转一段GT Planet管理员的评论

Wolgib07 Says:
September 25th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Please read !!! Really important !!!
If we started talking about Forza 3, i can tell you that Forza 3 comparing Forza 2 didn′t improve damage at all except rollover. In physics Forza 3 have done some nearly unnecesary tire flex which probably nobody will ever see (it is really imposible to find out in Forza 3 if your tire on your car is doing some mini flex on 120 mph. That is ridiculous). The only thing they improved was the number of cars and tracks and probably some poligons on cars which still are less than on gt 5 prologue.
Forza 2 Forza 3
cars aprox. 310 400
tracks 37 100(mega improvement)
Always they talk about polygons and Turn 10 says “10 times more polygons than in Forza 2″, but why they don′t say the number of them??? Because in GT 5 prologue there are 210000 polygons aprox. (differently on every car) and in Forza 2 (i was looking nearly without stoping for 2 days) and i found out that in Forza 2 there are 12000 polygons which means that there are 120000 polygons in forza 3 which sucks comparing with even GT 5 prologue which came out in 2007 = 3 years ago. We can see that in Mercedes SLS AMG video, in which graphics improved, which 85% means that polygons number improved also. Tracks and cars in Forza 3 look fine, but comparing to gt 5 prologue are just pieces of shit. That’s all because PS3 is more powerfull and Blu-ray disk comparing to a normal DVD which Xbox 360 has, has 5 times more of capacity. Thats why Turn 10 they came out with “this” and they said that they pushed xbox 360 to the max, taking everything maximum possible from it. So does it mean that what will see at the end of october will be the ultimate xbox 360 game. Well. Turn 10 says that. Dan really advertises his game by saying that his game in everything is better than other games (by that we think that it is better than gt 5 and he wants that we think like that and then sell our ps3s and buy xbox 360 and then buy forza 3 like zombes which just do what their boss says. Some of people do that now all days long, but we who didn’t sell a ps3 need to think a little bit and to understand that forza 3 from a scientific way couldn’t be better than gt5 (except 100 tracks). Cockpits in forza 3 look like ones from midnight club L.A. which is an arcade game. The camera is to high and close to the window which makes it even more difficult do look around and feel that you are in a racing sim. Graphics look cartoonish and lights still are too bright and they didn’t improve thing that in shades or under a brige the reflection doesn’t change at all. In the presentation gran turismo 5 rules. Nobody can touch it. The only thing why you probably need to buy forza 3 is because of tuning and porsche models. But forza 3 is better than gt4 in tining is because of bodykits and vinyls. Now, people were talking about fortha 3 being on 2 disks and that is still an issue with xbox 360 DVD capacity which is max 5 gb. and Bly ray disk is 25 gb.. It’s just because Turn 10 can’t fit their ultimate game in one disk and PG do. Also i didn’t really hear anything about Nascar or WRC after e3. Forza 3 still doesn’t have them, but even after that Dan from turn 10 says that forza 3 is the best game evar (ever). Yes, yes forza 3 seriosly has a better online that gt5 prologue has and probably gt5. I am not really in the online gameplay so much like my friends (they play 6 hours during the week and up to 15 hours in weekends). There is a Limited Collector’s Edition and Turn 10 sell nothing to you for 120$. You get: 8 hottest cars without which you can’t play the game and if you have extra 40 bucks you gust buy it. also you get a usb and other stupid stuff which nobody needs. And they call it a Limited Collector’s Edition, so there would be a limited amount of them and people will buy them faster. I don’t know, why they don’t do the whole forza 3 in limited edition. I think they just rob us. And today (25th september) forza 3 a demo came out with ferrari 458 italia and some weird Fujimi Kaido circuit which is situated in Japan (and was shown in TGS 09 to japanese kids how an American Forza 3 is better than Gran Turismo. They put in there some of japanese and japanese cars and boom nearly whole population of japanese kids bought an xbox and play forza 3. Meanwhile Kaz says that the game will come out between now and march (the translator got it wrong and it said in march). My friend from Tokio who was there and which is japanese said it to me.
GT 5 i think will be epic game mainly because i am a gran turismo and PS3 fan. And also because it really will be ones again one of the best games of all times and when it will come out it will break several world recods all of us will buy it (except ones who will die by swine flu), play it for several thousand hours and now we’ll continue playing online and when we will be bored with itwe will wait for other three years and gt 6 the new masterpiece will come and no forzas or anything will ever be even close to the real driving simulator GRAN TURISMO.
Here is a little bit information about both upcomming games.
Gran Turismo 5 Forza Motorsport 3
Cars 950+ 400
Tracks 70+ 100
Polygons 250000+ 120000
Damage yes yes
D & N cycles yes no
Weather changes yes no
Porsches no yes
Tire flex (it is just so stupid feature that i am not rating on that)
Nascar yes no
WRC yes no
Tuning yes(partly) yes
Nitrous yes no
Pit crews yes not seen yet
Concept cars yes no
Cool online features no yes
Price 69.95$ 79.95$
For me GRAN TURISMO FOR EVER.
I have a PC, an XBOX 360, a PSP (the first one), a PS3, a nintendo DSI, and a Wii.
I like the most PS3, because it has such good games like GT5, Motorstorm, MGS, Killzone 2, etc…,and if i would had only a PS3 i won’t be an asshole and buy xbox for only one f****ng
game.

[ 本帖最后由 samchen0079 于 2009-9-26 09:13 编辑 ]

作者: west2046 时间: 2009-9-26 22:17

引用:

原帖由 samchen0079 于 2009-9-26 07:11 发表
转一段GT Planet管理员的评论

Wolgib07 Says:
September 25th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
I have a PC, an XBOX 360, a PSP (the first one), a PS3, a nintendo DSI, and a Wii.
I like the most PS3, because it has such good games like GT5, Motorstorm, MGS, Killzone 2, etc…,and if i would had only a PS3 i won’t be an asshole and buy xbox for only one f****ng
game.

客观公正

作者: jzhl 时间: 2009-9-26 22:44

引用:

原帖由 samchen0079 于 2009-9-26 07:11 发表
转一段GT Planet管理员的评论

Wolgib07 Says:
September 25th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Please read !!! Really important !!!
If we started talking about Forza 3, i can tell you that Forza 3 comparing Forza ...

忘了FORZA最强大的特点,可以涂车!!!

作者: 黑龙 时间: 2009-9-26 22:51

GT5销量能不能超过PGR4还真是个悬念

作者: dogsoldier 时间: 2009-9-26 23:09

本来也就是一个娱乐节目，居然还当圣旨了

作者: KOSMOS 时间: 2009-9-26 23:47

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原帖由 dogsoldier 于 2009-9-26 23:09 发表
本来也就是一个娱乐节目，居然还当圣旨了

人家好歹也有人落场.总比大师你黑GT那些招数靠谱点

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-27 00:39

有进步，LZ这回不用“握着DS2也能感受真实驾乘的乐趣”，用六轴或者DS3了

作者: lippy 时间: 2009-9-27 09:16

每次看到有人为了GT欢呼，就会有人出来倒洗脚水

作者: 马拉多纳 时间: 2009-9-27 09:25

果然客观公正啊。

作者: dogsoldier 时间: 2009-9-27 15:38

引用:

原帖由 KOSMOS 于 2009-9-26 23:47 发表

人家好歹也有人落场.总比大师你黑GT那些招数靠谱点

这两段视频，GT的是预渲染的，forza3是游戏的回放，这都拿来比，可见GT饭们早就没什么下限了

还有，topgear还真是个主观性很强娱乐的节目，所以topgear你麻痹啊

作者: legendkang 时间: 2009-9-27 15:44

片子的确拍的不错很赞赏这种宣传手段！但仅此而已！

作者: zhuliang 时间: 2009-9-27 19:25

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原帖由 dogsoldier 于 2009-9-27 15:38 发表

这两段视频，GT的是预渲染的，forza3是游戏的回放，这都拿来比，可见GT饭们早就没什么下限了

还有，topgear还真是个主观性很强娱乐的节目，所以topgear你麻痹啊

别人硬要把八卦娱乐节目当世界权威你有什么办法,每集开始的TOPGEAR NEWS就已经把这个节目的本质暴露无疑了.

[ 本帖最后由 zhuliang 于 2009-9-27 19:26 编辑 ]

作者: KOSMOS 时间: 2009-9-28 00:25

你们几个就别来现眼了..人家再娱乐也能上那些车扯一把.
不比你们这些强?
哦..那些
当初拿免许铁人考驾照来贬低GT的.数大桥多边形的.拉NFS全系列和GT比销量的.都躲哪里去了
还好:GT5销量能不能超过PGR4还真是个悬念这位大湿还在..

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-28 00:34

喜欢数毛是不是？

作者: KOSMOS 时间: 2009-9-28 00:50

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原帖由 爱你一棒陲 于 2009-9-28 00:34 发表
喜欢数毛是不是？

http://photo2.bababian.com/usr632035/upload1/20090927/s3NUycd2zaO ...

"你也就是个看车库的命",结合此贴看棒槌的样子真喜感...
http://club.tgfc.com/thread-6102670-2-8.html

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-28 00:56

只许索青看车库，不许软匪看选车画面？

喜欢数毛车内视角也不用愁，就不知道LS 的GT5P有几章？事先声明，本人历来对某群体蹭图的嗜好很不齿，ls想数毛自个儿拍去

[ 本帖最后由爱你一棒陲于 2009-9-28 00:58 编辑 ]

作者: KOSMOS 时间: 2009-9-28 00:59

我只是觉得你双重标准的厉害....而且虚伪的厉害

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-28 01:15

楼上想表白自个是个表里如一的FANBOY？玩双重标准也得要本钱，不是只靠嘴皮子OK？没事学一些个写轮眼蹭机党蛋疼，成天对着网络资源自渎很好玩是吧？心里平衡了？

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-28 01:18

DEMO网上排行榜已经有几十万人了，指望能口水喷死一个游戏我看是徒劳，好不好玩的人说了算。

作者: zhangjingy2008 时间: 2009-9-28 01:20

5个月没蹭到机器的人居然还有脸说别人蹭图。

作者: 爱你一棒陲 时间: 2009-9-28 01:22

船长2出来自然会开机，就是不知道北漂乞丐何年何月才能得偿所望啊？最近没见天湿玩神机么，该不会是穷得交不起房租了吧？

作者: yellowbigbird 时间: 2009-9-28 14:32

就冲这个, 今后准时收看top gear...............

作者: KOSMOS 时间: 2009-9-28 22:34

引用:

原帖由 爱你一棒陲 于 2009-9-28 01:15 发表
楼上想表白自个是个表里如一的FANBOY？玩双重标准也得要本钱，不是只靠嘴皮子OK？没事学一些个写轮眼蹭机党蛋疼，成天对着网络资源自渎很好玩是吧？心里平衡了？

"玩双重标准也得要本钱，不是只靠嘴皮子OK?"你开发啥游戏给我玩了?你是帅的惊动了党?你是天师那样好歹还在杂志上搞点自留地,你有啥本钱在这里吹?
我说你双重标准是看你带着2张皮进不同的帖子,然后看情况戴不同的脸.
你这种小丑.我看只不过是把你现实生活中的人品放大而已罢了..

[ 本帖最后由 KOSMOS 于 2009-9-28 22:37 编辑 ]

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