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作者: 皇后杀手 时间: 2008-7-30 10:55 标题: PES2009试玩体会(转)

速度：
速度不再摧枯拉朽，必须正确地选择线路和运用其他技巧，像PES2008里面的一路狂奔就可以突破防线的事情几乎没有了，进攻和防守队员的AI都有相当的提高。
裁判：
裁判方面也有些许改善，大部分时间都能正确判罚，铲球的判罚更加合理。（没有什么裁判模式）
进攻：
08明显在鼓励进攻，射门变得相对容易。PES2009中，这一点变得不那么容易了，守门员的防守区域明显改善，更加接近真实的比赛。防守的时候制造越位陷阱，更像是猫捉老鼠，打身后球，获得单刀的机会越来越少。
画质：
画质并无太大改善（对配置的要求也许不会有大幅提高），但是光影效果（流光和阳光等）比起前作更出色一些。不知道和EA的FIFA09比起来，哪一个在“次世代”的较量中，更胜一筹呢？
门将：
08的门将基本都是废柴和脑残，pes2009中看起来有些改善，目前还没看到有软弱无力的射门都会无端脱手的情况。
授权：
利物浦和曼联获得了授权，大部分球员有了“真相”
联赛：
目前已经确认的联赛有英超，法甲，西甲，荷甲和意甲。
拜仁：
拜仁已经没有了，取而代之的是圣彼得堡队。
球场：
一共有19座球场，新增的球场是温布利大球场。随着利物浦和曼联得到授权，安菲尔德和老特拉福德也有望加入。
新模式：
类似FIFA的传奇模式被引入，就是玩家可以扮演一名球员，从底层联赛开始打拼。也就是大家熟知的一球成名。
联机延迟：
有史以来最为流畅的一作、
数据：
球员数据基本跟前作一样，不过俄罗斯的欧洲杯英雄阿尔沙文有了显著的提高，但是也不是顶尖一类的。(转)

作者: 烏鴉 时间: 2008-7-30 11:08

新作老二哥的射精该回95了吧.上赛季的数据统计和巅峰时一样,不到4脚进1球.
映像中WE8I的GK没什么大问题.

作者: syu 时间: 2008-7-30 11:17

英文原稿，期待达人翻译。
With regards to the gameplay, would you say it resembled PES6 or PES2008, and what aspects differ.
The gameplay is PES2008, the way it should have been. You can no longer run straight through everyone with Etoo or Ronaldinho without any effort but you can beat players by running if you time your moves correctly. It is very realistic and the AI in defence and attack is massively improved.

The refereeing in PES2008 was abysmal, has it got any better? (please elaborate with examples i.e bringing play back etc)
The refereeing is probably the same although the collisions are much better so the decisions are often correct. The diving works better too. Managed to win a pen with an expertly timed dive over a defenders outstretched leg - looked class.
PES2008 definitely favoured the attacking side with scoring being particularly easy. Is this the case in 2009?
Shots don’t seem to be as easy as 2008 and the keepers cover their area much better. Obviously if you get up to them and pass across them its easy but that’s the same in real life. The defence also like to play cat and mouse with the offside trap so it’s harder to get in to create the easier chances.

Have we finally moved into the “Next Gen” or are we still polishing a turd (graphics wise)
The graphics are similar but the lighting effects (floodlights/sun etc) are spectacular. It really adds to the feel of the game, definitely the best I have seen in a sports game but I haven’t seen Fifa 09 yet
PES2008’s goalkeepers were total garbage. Please tell me they’ve improved.
They seemed to have improved but I can’t be 100% sure. I haven’t seen one soft shot being fumbled and tapped in though so that’s a good thing.
Who are the officially licensed England League teams?
Liverpool & Man Utd although most sides have nearly every player’s real face.
Please list the leagues included.
The same as last time, England, France, Spain, Holland & Italy
Any major non leagued teams removed or added?
Off the top of my head I think the only change is Zenith St Petersburg replacing Bayern Munich
Off the top of ur head, how many stadiums are there, and which famous ones are new? i.e stamford bridge etc
There are 19 stadiums, the only new one I remember is Wembley, although I suspect Old Trafford & Anfield will be there as part of the licensing agreement with the 2 clubs
You mentioned “become a legend” mode. Can you explain this in more detail? & how it relates to the “new exciting online mode”
You create a player and start off at a team - A made up side (Think it’s a youth side). You control just yourself (With the Be a Pro mode camera from FIFA). As you play your player improves in stats and sides become interested and make offers for your services, I had Hull & Everton after me.
When you save your player stats, you can then take him online to team up with other “legends”. This adds a whole new side to the game as you can actually play in a side day in day out and have leagues set up etc. I haven’t really got far into it but it is a great addition in my opinion.
does this imply that u can play online with other ppl playing in the same team as u???
yeah. I am not sure how many you can have but I have heard its 7 vs 7, don’t quote me though as this is 2nd hand info (tough I’m quoting you anyway!)
Any word on online lag yet?
I don’t work on the online section of the game but I am assured that the lag is 100% a thing of the past and this years will be the smoothest yet.

Of the big names, who has been greatly improved stat-wise, and have any of the silly super slags been downgraded?
Most of the stats are the same as last year (not completely finished yet) but Arshavin is better but not amazing. The slags dont need to be downgraded as the collisions are calculated better so its just a matter of defending them right. In my opinion your league wouldn’t need to remove any players as Messi can be handled by a competent defender as long as you time your challenges.
If you had to be disappointed with one thing, what would it be?
There are a couple for me (But I could be over critical). Crossing seems to be a bit floaty (from corners) and the shooting has completely changed again so it needs a good practise again. Shooting like PES 2008 will result in you scoring 0. This isn’t so much a bad thing but a nuisance.
Also on the be a legend mode the user is unable to create a goalkeeper or defender to play with which is a shame
I am disappointed that Bayern have gone and the master league hasn’t changed - even the menus are the same.
Overall its the best footy game out there by a country mile up to now. Roll on October for the release.

So great news all round then! Seeing as most of the info echoes what we’ve been told, I’d say that this information is to be trusted. A shame for Konami that so much news was under embargo, but I guess great for the fans.
Let us know what you think!

作者: 李逵史莱克 时间: 2008-7-30 11:18

哇····要来了，总算有新的要来了

作者: 李逵史莱克 时间: 2008-7-30 11:20

对联机的改善充满着绝对的期待···

作者: 心御剑 时间: 2008-7-30 11:44

就KONAMI那技术~~

作者: 水星的爱 时间: 2008-7-30 11:46

估计还有PS2版本

作者: 限定版笔记本 时间: 2008-7-30 11:54

刚换3850显卡..............

作者: DeniumMKII 时间: 2008-7-30 11:59

512KFTTB用户飙泪，PES2008联机每到下半场就如放幻灯片，上半场要是没有2球以上领先下半场必然被对手反盘，连球怎么进的都看不到

作者: 超叔 时间: 2008-7-30 12:08

别跟fifa比了，已经差一个档次了，好好炒倭国自己的盘子就行了。。。。。。

作者: lawson 时间: 2008-7-30 13:19

大家不觉得每次实况来的时候，那些什么评测言论调子都是一样的么？

1，总是说身后难打了，结果依旧。

2，总是说速度没用了，结果依旧。

3，总是说身体无用了，结果依旧。

4，总是说龙门强大了，结果依旧。

5，总是说进攻被减了，结果依旧。

还有什么进步呢？

作者: 浣熊2005 时间: 2008-7-30 13:22

电脑不换,还是玩不到,啥时候出个PS2版本啊

作者: 猩猩带我去战斗 时间: 2008-7-30 13:25

引用:

原帖由 lawson 于 2008-7-30 13:19 发表
大家不觉得每次实况来的时候，那些什么评测言论调子都是一样的么？

1，总是说身后难打了，结果依旧。

2，总是说速度没用了，结果依旧。

3，总是说身体无用了，结果依旧。

4，总是说龙门强大了，结果依旧 ...

我觉得和适应时间有关系，每作we出来上手都得一定的时间吧，从吃几个0-1到大比分胜利，所谓的：无他唯手熟尔。。。。

作者: hp10161016 时间: 2008-7-30 13:28

我觉得PES系列每作间变动最大的就是远射

作者: kingson 时间: 2008-7-30 13:36

我整个人都泽尼特了

泽尼特替换拜仁这条是恶搞吧，再怎么说拜仁的人气和影响力占据个位置总比哥本哈根之流更有说服力吧

作者: sonicae86 时间: 2008-7-30 13:38

以后玩FIFA去吧，WE已经多少代没有进化过了？

作者: cinder 时间: 2008-7-30 14:52

拜仁是因为版权问题吧？以前据说ea都搞不定卡恩~

作者: Jeffrey 时间: 2008-7-30 14:56

2008的时候速度也没什么很明显的优势吧

PS2版肯定有的

现在外包给上海konami做PS2版的

作者: yangzhicai 时间: 2008-7-30 14:57

每次试玩测评说的都是老一套，这么多代下来，除了we8和we5，没有一次不失望的

作者: Jeffrey 时间: 2008-7-30 14:59

这次还是再看看

PES2008的那套引擎现在没吃透，优化做得巨渣无比

如果09还是如此那就没必要期待了

作者: 水星的爱 时间: 2008-7-30 15:01

其实，我觉得是机能和球员的AI设计制约了这个系列的发展。AI多少年没有进步了，这才是致命的……

作者: senna 时间: 2008-7-30 16:26

官网显示有PS2版，PS3可以晚点买了！！！

[ 本帖最后由 senna 于 2008-7-30 16:27 编辑 ]

作者: 左右中 时间: 2008-7-30 17:24

pes2008的GK啊……近角低平球有大概率被GK抱住后起身的时候被门柱卡进球门……
反正08是特别囧

作者: skywalkerhy 时间: 2008-7-31 00:29

pes2008的角球是本人觉得最囧得，冲顶击球概率无限大

联网也垃圾，卡的基本没法玩，6m的带宽也是如此，正版白买了

希望下一代能够好好优化一下，不用换电脑最高...

作者: 卡米哇可可 时间: 2008-7-31 02:02

测评看了也没意义，自己玩了才知道

作者: 阿毛 时间: 2008-7-31 02:24

反正只支持实况

作者: 我是我的马甲 时间: 2008-7-31 06:35

绝对不玩PS2版,
画面太渣了.
觉得不会有大的改变的.
出来就玩.

作者: kamuiyay 时间: 2008-7-31 10:59

PES2008就整一个退步
所以2009的改进还是值得期待的

作者: k-1 时间: 2008-7-31 11:02

速度！身体！
嗯嗯……已经把实况概括完了！只是不想每次都见到什么速度优势没有前作明显啦什么之类的……

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