Microsoft is banning 360 firmware modders
After several months of silence it was more or less accepted that Microsoft wasn’t going to do anything about the firmware hacks that allow Xbox 360s to play backups. Rather surprising, considering the ‘inventor’ of the hack confirmed in March already that the mods are easily detectable, and the reports that piracy is running rampant in countries like China. It appears that Microsoft is finally taking action against them though, although they may be hitting the wrong persons.
This thread on the official Xbox.com forums was started by Furydog, who posts with a completely empty gamer profile:
I have two xbox 360’s and since Friday October 13 2006 I have not been able to connect with my two 360’s. According to MS customer support my status codes indicate that I have MODDED 360’s which I don’t. I have contacted several different people and I only one person (GreenJohnny) has responded to me but he was not able to assist me. Although, he did confirm that the status codes I received indicate that my systems Mac addresses are banned because their supposedly MODDED.
Xbox Support stating there are status codes that indicate a machine was banned for modding? That’s a new one. To further confirm the story ILBCNU from Xbox Support Staff responds to his post stating they are investigating the issue and apologizing for the problem. No denial or anything, so yep, your modded Xbox 360 is now officially in risk of getting banned from Live or worse.
The fundamental problem with the firmware hack is that it’s a so-called Man in the Middle attack on the system’s security. Imagine a phone call between 2 English speaking people, and you’ve got control over the line in between. By cutting in at the right moments, you can make it appear to one of the participants that the other one is saying something to him, but it’s actually you saying something else and making him believe that it’s a valid response. That’s a simplified explanation of how the hacked firmware works: it lies to the 360 kernel about what the disc is saying about its authenticity. Now imagine if both the speakers on that phone line suspected you were in the middle, and switched to speaking a slightly modified dialect. If you’re still breaking in with the original dialect, it’s easily detectable that you’re trying to fool around. Back to the 360, since Microsoft still has absolute control over disc contents and the kernel code, they can simply change the dialect on both sides and thus detect firmware hacks. If they wish, they can take any action they want upon detection, ranging from the simple Xbox Live ban to even bricking your 360 or disabling it to run any newly released games. (微软依然掌握着360的命脉,只要盖茨大妈愿意,你的360就会升级到以下三种新功能:上不了Live、变砖头、玩不了某个时间点后的新游戏)
There is something slightly fishy about the report though, being that it says the 360 is banned based on MAC address. Those of us familiar with the OSI model and common network implementations will immediately know this is not true, because MAC addresses are part of the Ethernet protocol and live on Layer 2, and never get routed over the internet. In simple terms: your 360s MAC address is not remotely identifiable. An option could be that the Xbox Live login code sends the MAC address itself to the Live servers to be able to uniquely identify the 360, but that would be plain silly since MAC addresses are known not to be unique: they only need to be unique within their physical subnet. A far more obvious solution on Microsoft’s part would be to use the console serial number for this, which is embedded in the system anyway and truly unique.
Whatever the details, we can probably consider it a fact that MS is currently acting against modded Xbox 360s, and you should start worrying if you’ve got a firmware replacement in your concave box: the Empire is Striking Back.
RestlessDream 追加发言:
■ 微软似乎已经开始采取手段查禁改机的360了。那个老兄也明确说明,自己遭遇“误ban”的情况是:连接Live不能,报错误代码。根据查询,错误代码的含义为:“用户对主机进行了非法修改(mod)”。但是目前尚未见到大规模的改机用户 Live登陆不能报告。由此我个人的猜测是,这只是一个开始。还要看微软进一步的动作。
也希望TG已经改机的朋友及时交流信息,是否出现登陆不能,乃至被ban的现象——尤其是当 Live 即将进行秋季升级的时刻。
原帖由 一刀倾城 于 2006-10-30 18:22 发表
和尚发了。宏龙发了。
原帖由 雷飞 于 2006-10-30 18:27 发表
我到时候就收香港店头展示用的游戏玩,这个很便宜!
原帖由 zo 于 2006-10-31 01:40 发表
靠,昨天才充了年卡。。
原帖由 骷髅上帝 于 2006-10-31 09:01 发表
我就玩几个游戏,幽灵行动,丧尸围城,失落星球,使召3,分裂4,算算也要2000元,又能买台了,晕。不上LIVE到还好,就怕以后新游戏要升级才能玩。再买台新机,估计就语聊
原帖由 鱼乐无线 于 2006-10-31 02:11 发表
Z版是大势所趋,我们的消费意识也会因此得到提升,D版终究会变成过街老鼠的,贪多没有任何意义,买一个自己喜欢的Z版游戏,然后认真去玩才是真玩家,才是真饭,说自己是?饭,却一张Z版都不买,算真饭吗?
原帖由 鱼乐无线 于 2006-10-31 02:11 发表
Z版是大势所趋,我们的消费意识也会因此得到提升,D版终究会变成过街老鼠的,贪多没有任何意义,买一个自己喜欢的Z版游戏,然后认真去玩才是真玩家,才是真饭,说自己是?饭,却一张Z版都不买,算真饭吗?
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原帖由 鱼乐无线 于 2006-10-31 02:11 发表
Z版是大势所趋,我们的消费意识也会因此得到提升,D版终究会变成过街老鼠的,贪多没有任何意义,买一个自己喜欢的Z版游戏,然后认真去玩才是真玩家,才是真饭,说自己是?饭,却一张Z版都不买,算真饭吗?
原帖由 猛男乙 于 2006-10-31 10:06 发表
拜一下,幸好我买了一张正版,可以算是真饭了:D :D :D
原帖由 checktang 于 2006-10-31 10:47 发表
我觉得微软不会封live的...中国上live的用户不在少数,没必要和钱过不去,我觉得在中国实行D+live的收费方法比较合理XD
原帖由 vany 于 2006-10-31 11:05 发表
我估计这次还不会封,下次就很有可能了。
回家第一时间升级。希望这次能支持飞龙
原帖由 古兰佐贰 于 2006-10-31 11:13 发表
一个游戏认真玩,慢慢玩,特别是XO上有成就点数以后,先以1000点为目标慢慢努力,然后再看看有什么可以挑战极限的另类玩发,顺便再上线和人对战或者协作闯关,一星期的游戏时间也尽量别超过20小时,一个游戏玩上两三个 ...
原帖由 GougouTGFC 于 2006-10-31 10:35 发表
这我不同意
我自己拥有的每台主机我都会买几张正版,包括SFC,PS2,XBOX,PSP,NDS。一来是支持一下自己喜欢的游戏和厂商,二来我觉得没有正版的陪伴的主机是不完整的。
但是我大多都会完D,因为喜欢玩的游 ...
原帖由 herro 于 2006-10-31 21:45 发表
已经声级了,毛事都没有......... 谁造的遥啊
原帖由 hie 于 2006-10-31 21:48 发表
是不是只要不上网就没事了?
原帖由 古兰佐贰 于 2006-10-31 11:13 发表
一个游戏认真玩,慢慢玩,特别是XO上有成就点数以后,先以1000点为目标慢慢努力,然后再看看有什么可以挑战极限的另类玩发,顺便再上线和人对战或者协作闯关,一星期的游戏时间也尽量别超过20小时,一个游戏玩上两三个 ...
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