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作者: marsbaby    时间: 2005-2-26 21:38     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

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战士太菜了!《魔兽》战士抱怨一箩筐


  知道什么叫单挑吧?但对手不穿衣服不拿武器的单挑你见过吗?

  喜欢练战士吗?想看看《魔兽世界》里的战士有多悲惨吗?

  这里给大家带来的是最新的《魔兽世界》中顶级战士与各职业单挑的录象:60级战士玩家制作的精彩视频,该玩家的装备4件战士套装,其他的不是紫色装备就是蓝字极品,手持58级紫色瑞文戴尔之剑。

  在视频中分别与空手圣骑,不穿装备的德鲁依,牧师,法师,和盗贼单挑。

  以下是国外玩家战士太弱问题的讨论,摘抄一些精彩的评论供大家参考。

  You know Warriors suck when...

  当你知道了战士是个废柴的时候...

  ...when in a PvP raid, the other faction ignores you, killing everyone in site, then dancing naked with you.

  ...在PVP raid时,对方忽视你的存在,杀掉所有其他职业的玩家,然后脱光了绕着你跳舞欢庆胜利。

  ...when your reaction is “Thank God I didn’t die!” instead of “I totally kicked his ass!”

  ...你经常的反应是:“感谢上帝,我没有死!”,而不是:“@#!%$,去死吧!”

  ...when you challenge a level 10 mage to a duel when your level 14 and she denies saying it isnt fair, then goes off and duels a level 16 pally.

  ...当你在14级时,挑战一个10级的法师,她拒绝挑战,并告诉你:那不公平。然后她离开去挑战另一个16级的圣骑士。

  ...you just want to get to 40 so you can become a Master Armorsmith and reroll.

  ...你只想着赶快到40级,那样的话,你就可以成为一个盔甲铁匠大师,然后选择另外的职业去玩。

  ...when a LVL32 Rogue, LVL35 Hunter, LVL33 DRUID, and LVL40 Warrior was about to clear Morladim in Duskwood. The Hunter, DRUID, and Rogue were ready to charge in when, all of a sudden the Warrior says:

  "I think we need ANOTHER healer..."

  ...当32级盗贼、35级猎人、33级德鲁依和一个40级战士准备去一个副本时,其他几个30级出头的玩家都准备好了,40级的战士突然说:

  “我想,我们还需要另外一个治疗者...”

  ...there’s a thread posted in the warriors forum about how much warriors suck.

  ...在战士讨论区,有一个帖子的主题是:我们战士有多废柴。

  ...when youre fighting one mob and suddenlly you get multiple aggro, and you know theres nothing you can do about it, youre gonna die

  ...你正在和一个怪物战斗,突然来了另外一个怪物,你很清楚,现在你什么都做不了,等死是唯一可以做的。

  ...when u quit your level 19 warrior, get a rogue to level 14 and kill enemies your level 19 warrior would have died to in 10 seconds.

  ...你放弃了你19级的战士,又练了一个盗贼到14级,他能够杀死敌人,而这些敌人能将你那位19级的战士10秒内就干掉。

  ...when level 1 mobs agro you at level 30 cause they know they have a fighting chance.

  ...一个1级的怪物朝你发起进攻,虽然你已经30级了,但怪物们知道:他们是有一定胜算的。

  ...when your class name is in the title of the game and you wonder why you suck so bad.

  ...在魔兽世界里,你的名字是战士!但你很想知道,为什么自己这么废柴,还能拥有这样的名字。

  ...when in a duel, the Priests / Pally / Druid

  BUFFS you instead!!!!

  ...要和牧师、圣骑士,或者德鲁依决斗了,

  他们却把BUFF加给了你!

  ...When you wish your miss ratio was reversed with your hit ratio

  ...你非常希望自己的miss率转换成命中率。

  ...when you beat a priest 3 levels lower than you in a duel, so she accuses you of cheating and calls her mage friend.

  when you beat said priest’s mage friend, who is 4 levels lower than you, 2 out of three duels and they both decide you are a hack, so they both report you...

  ...当你在决斗中击败了比你低3级的一位牧师,她认定你在作弊,然后叫来她的法师朋友,比你低4级,但你又赢了,她们肯定你是作弊的人,所以,她们决定向GM报告。

  ...when a priest in your party says "screw it, I’ll tank!

  ...队伍中,一位牧师同伴高喊:“危险,快闪开,我来当tank!”

  ...When your hit indicators read:

  Miss

  Miss

  Dodge

  Parry

  Hit

  Miss

  Parry

  I need a target.

  Priest had killed it all ready.

  ...you think you have lots of hit points, until the hunter tells you just how many he had at your level

  ...你总是认为你有很多生命值,直到一位猎人告诉你,他有多少生命。

  ... only like 2 out of 100 warriors deny the problem.

  ...在这个论坛里,这么多的帖子中,只有2%的战士不同意这个废柴问题。

  ... when u watch multiple videos of unarmed chaercters owning warriors

  ...当你看了很多的录像,都是关于其他职业的玩家如何光着身子将穿着蓝紫装的战士干掉的。

  ... when you ask what weapon is the best for you to use and they reply a sheild

  ...你向别人询问:什么武器对战士最好。回答是:盾。

  ...when u have played a warrior in EVERY mmorpg you have ever played.

  ...你正在玩一个其他所有MMORPG中没有出现过的战士。

  ... a rogue two levels your junior beats you with a fishing pole...

  ...一位低你2级的盗贼用钓鱼杆将你干掉...

  ... a Hunter wants to put you in the stable and get out a better pet.

  ...猎人们非常希望将你放进牲畜圈,作为一个更好的宠物。

  ... when mobs still run away faster then you after you hamstrung them.

  ...即使你使用了斩脚技能,怪物们还是比你跑的快。

  ... when a guild hunter tries to chear you up by feigning death in a duel, just so that you can say you killed him, once in a hundret tries.

  ...一位公会的猎人朋友在对决中装死,只是为了让你高兴一下。

  ...when you realized it cost less to die than drink that healing potion

  ...当你意识到,与其被打死,也不要再喝什么药剂了,那样损失更少。

  ...When you’ve actually played a Warrior, even just once. That’s all it takes.

  ...当你玩了一个战士,即使只是一次,你也已经意识到了:战士是废柴。

  ...When u post 12 msg’s telling every1 how much u suck

  ...你向论坛发了条帖子,告诉每个人:我们战士很废柴。

  ...when your character gets deleted but you actually feel happy

  ...当你真的依依不舍的将陪伴了你多日的战士角色删除的时候,你突然感觉到非常轻松愉快。

  ...you consider Blacksmithing as your primary class. Cooking, fishing and warrior are your secondary skills.

  ...你认为铁匠是你的职业,烹饪、钓鱼和战士是你的专业技能。

  ...When visiting other class boards, and hearing them discuss thier weaknesses, always someone points out "It’s not that bad, at least we’re not Warriors"......and everyone agrees.

  ...当你到别人职业的论坛浏览时,你听到他们在讨论他们职业的弱点,总有人会说:我们还不算太糟糕,至少比战士强。每个人都同意这个观点。

  ...your MPS (miss per second) is greater than your DPS ---

  ...你的MPS(miss per second)远高于你的DPS(damage per second)

  ...When you realize that Dual Wielding should be named Dual Shielding. If we can’t hit anything we should at least be able to take more hits with two shields

  ...当你意识到双持武器应该改名为双持盾牌。既然我们拿着武器什么也打不着,何不干脆拿两个盾牌以地方更多的伤害呢。

  ...When you feel stupid being named a warrior because the only thing you’re not good at is being a warrior

  ...你感觉作为战士的自己很笨,只是因为始终无法做个好战士。

  ...you shout at your computer. "how can you not hit a 10 foot tall turtle 2 feet in front of you with 2 swords after 10 swings.

  ...你冲着你的电脑大叫:“为什么你拿着两把剑,攻击10次,却打不中身高10英尺2英寸的乌龟”

  ... when your 6 foot axe gets a critical and hacks a limb off a spellcaster, but he doesn’t stop casting until you tickle him for 15 damage.

  ...当你用你6英尺的大斧,向一位施法者击出致命一击后,他却并没有停止施法,你只是给他挠了15点伤害。

  ... when you see two monsters guarding the entrance to your quest, open your queestbook and abandon the quest.

  ...当你看到两个怪物守着一个任务的入口时,你打开任务栏,将这个任务删除掉了。

  ... when you aggro a second monster and your first thought is, "Where’s the best place to die"

  ...当第二个怪物向你冲过来时,你的第一反应是:“死在哪里比较好?"

  ...When you stab yourself in the foot in hopes that it’ll raise your rage bar faster.

  ...你猛戳自己的脚,希望能够加快积攒一些怒气。

  ... You read a thread in the paladin’s forum asking for advice about pulling agro from a hunter’s pet and there is a Warrior joke in it.

  ...圣骑士论坛里,读个一个帖子:战士向猎人的宠物请教,如何提高引怪能力。那不过是该论坛的一个笑话贴而已。

  ...When u see mages having a lower melee miss rate.

  ...当你看到法师的近战失误率远低于你的。

  ...You see a level 38 pally killing lvl 40 mob, help him kill it thinking he might have troubles with it, and get an answer "Thnx, but I was just skilling up my weapon skill".

  ...你看到一个38级的圣骑士正在杀一个40级的怪物,你以为他有了麻烦,帮他杀死怪物,然后他告诉你:“非常感谢,但是我正在练习武器熟练度。”

  ...You miss less with your gun than you do with your melee

  ...记住:你用枪的miss率比使用近战武器的要低得多。

  ...when you ask yourself,"What was the reason I choose warrior class?"

  ...你总是扪心自问:“是什么原因让我选择了战士?”

  ...When you’d rather sit in the forums, than go back to playing your warrior because it just depresses you to even think of playing.

  ...你宁愿在论坛里灌水,也不愿到游戏里玩那个战士,甚至一想都感到失望。

作者: marsbaby    时间: 2005-2-26 21:39     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

我觉得group时战士只要得到足够的heal还是很有威力的啊
作者: cywater2000    时间: 2005-2-26 22:33     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

233MAX
作者: Ash    时间: 2005-2-26 22:38     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

我战士和同等级的priest,paladin,hunter,warlock对打时,在双方都是满血的情况下,从没赢过。不过如果同为warrior,我还是蛮有心得的。
我工会里的说,50级前warrior就是废,除了血多,就没什么好的了。
唉...
作者: mushroom    时间: 2005-2-27 14:16     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

战士在duel的时候除了非stunlock的2流盗贼就只能和战士自己打才有胜算...
不过真的有顶级装备+pvp build的话,也不是完全没有机会,至少战士不很怕fear

对于对手来说,打战士=在80%的HP时候打一个mob

作者: 被K汉姆    时间: 2005-2-28 00:31     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

楼上的比喻比较强...
我这边hellscream是pve,战士大概是人数第2还是第3的职业
难道pvp服务器里面战士是稀有动物?
作者: mushroom    时间: 2005-2-28 02:41     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

BRD开始没有战士就很难打副本了,pvp服务器战士也不少,但除了tank以外基本上没有用处。所有的职业都由自己控制战斗的方法,但战士只能被控制没办法反抗。

群P的时候会好一点,execute、ms、群体fear至少会要对手稍微担心一下,不过只要能把战士root住,一般问题都不太大。
作者: yzh    时间: 2005-2-28 04:44     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

marsbaby, 原来你在这里混啊
战士就要加强了,讲DUEL的话, 我HOLY PRIEST 才是谁都打不过
作者: woodnymph    时间: 2005-2-28 11:41     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

单跳是废,不过组队要是没有战士,嘿嘿...
作者: mushroom    时间: 2005-2-28 12:05     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

BRD之前没有战士也没啥
BRD开始战法牧哪个都不能缺

群P不知道
作者: gameoverer    时间: 2005-2-28 12:46     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

BRD没牧师通过一次
BRD再往上的,想找个5人GROUP去都有困难,也就没办法试验

作者: alienyu    时间: 2005-3-1 01:09     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

战士PvP全凭操作,上次有个horde的战士跟我1vs1,操作感实在是太强了,不停切换姿态使用各种技能削弱对方。今天在IF门口duel着玩,有个druid指点了我一下,形势立刻有很大的改观
作者: mushroom    时间: 2005-3-1 12:27     标题: 233MAX。。。关于战士。。。

凭什么操作啊

除了berzerkrage对付抗fear,根本对战斗没有任何控制权
如果不出MS就没有instant的直接攻击方法,不能在短暂的接近机会中输出比较高的伤害
出了MS就没有imp intercept,被先攻就只有一次intercept的机会

对stun lock盗贼全靠人品,cheapshot和evi如果miss2次以上才会有机会
对caster只能靠hp拖延时间,但4000多hp瞬间就没了,shieldwall在被root后多撑一点时间,但是recklessness就没有了
对会heal的pummel和shield bash是公共cool down的,第一次打断第二次只能干等着看他加血

charge成功以后第一件事是harmstring
切换stance需要加同时换武器的宏
pummel必须准确地命中对方的回复魔法而不是其他魔法
对rogue要rend,在开始之前剑盾装defence stance到第一次stun lock结束
对猎人要harmstring宠物intercept猎人等宠物过来fear
对pally不能让对手在自己被晕或对手无敌以外放出回复,ms必须
...
但是无论如何挣扎,死就是死,毫无机会




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