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不知道背景的建议看看这个专栏 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/80241195


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原帖由 @S.UNDAY  于 2019-12-7 10:57 AM 发表
说白了就是看你在看电影前是不是知道波兰斯基的灭门案这件事。
知道的话全程都是紧张的,因为你会完全明白为什么嬉皮士会出场,为什么会给波兰斯基和他老婆分出那么多镜头,看中间皮特独闯嬉皮士老巢那段时神经都绷得紧紧的。
因为观众预先知道那场著名的灭门惨案,所以观众会先入为主以为嬉皮士肯定是杀了房主鸠占鹊巢,以为这里肯定会有一场恶战。
结果昆汀设计成了反高潮。不但没用烂俗的套路,而且观众在高度紧张过后由衷舒一口气的心情,绝不比掏出枪哒哒哒大干一场带来的感觉差。
不存在奖文学奖获得者Olga Tokarczuk昨天在瑞典的演讲:

The general commercialization of the literary market has led to a division into branches—now there are fairs and festivals of this or that type of literature, completely separate, creating a clientele of readers eager to hole up with a crime novel, some fantasy or science fiction. A notable characteristic of this situation is that what was only supposed to help booksellers and librarians organize on their shelves the massive quantity of published books, and readers to orient themselves in the vastness of the offering, became instead abstract categories not only into which existing works are placed, but also according to which writers themselves have started writing. Increasingly, genre work is like a kind of cake mold that produces very similar results, their predictability considered a virtue, their banality an achievement. The reader knows what to expect and gets exactly what he wanted.


I have always intuitively opposed such orders, since they lead to the limiting of authorial freedom, to a reluctance toward the experimentation and transgression that is in fact the essential quality of creation in general. And they completely exclude from the creative process any of the eccentricity without which art would be lost. A good book does not need to champion its generic affiliation. The division into genres is the result of the commercialization of literature as a whole and an effect of treating it as a product for sale with the whole philosophy of branding and targeting and other, similar inventions of contemporary capitalism.



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原帖由 grammyliu 于 2019-12-9 15:03 发表
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不存在奖文学奖获得者Olga Tokarczuk昨天在瑞典的演讲:

The general commercialization of the literary market has led to a division into branches—now there are fairs a ...
没看过全文,仅就你引用的这段来看,他说的并不是反高潮这种技巧层面的东西,而是反套路这种创作态度层面的问题。有点像不久前马丁斯科塞斯喷漫威。这是文艺片和艺术片导演,纯文学和商业文学作家之间互看不顺眼的问题。

通常研究者的思维和创作者/艺术家的思维有很大不同。
前者很具有包容性,不会断言什么是有价值的,什么事没有价值的。因为这种断言显然是不成立的,没有任何意义。如果学生在大学里开一个题目研究漫威,没有人会认为这种题目就LOW了。至少在大学里这肯定是政治不正确的,会有人站起来问你为什么你评价高低的依据是什么,而你肯定拿不出一个客观标准,所以说到底就是你的个人偏见。
而后者则通常喜欢发表歧视性言论,文艺片导演公开鄙视类型片,纯文学作家看不起商业作家,前两年鲍勃迪伦拿奖的时候居然还有作家公开说不存在奖文学奖质量下降了,简直和菜市场吵架没区别了。
我喜欢纯文学,可我也喜欢商业市场塑造的那些现代流行文化。看到类似你引用的这段从一个刚获奖的作家嘴里说出来,感觉有点不舒服,说到底还是一副很傲慢、很清高的态度隐藏在里边。


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因为之前补波兰斯基的麦克白时碰巧关注了解了一下那段历史,所以看片的时候一直在紧张的等着什么时候那个那么美好的家庭被恶魔毁掉的场景会上线,没想到……啊啊,看到结尾时真的泪目了。小李和布拉特都贡献了影帝级别的出色演技

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原帖由 crimsonken 于 2019-12-9 14:43 发表
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不知道背景的建议看看这个专栏 https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/80241195
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/81383371   第二部分

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