https://photographylife.com/the- ... op-on-modern-lenses

笑死我了

还没看文章。不过X卡这类德国镜头特别喜欢讲味道啊，氛围啊、立体感啊这种

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原帖由 reinhaidvon 于 2017-11-29 22:25 发表
还没看文章。不过X卡这类德国镜头特别喜欢讲味道啊，氛围啊、立体感啊这种

1.2) Tom Cass
JULY 25, 2017 AT 1:48 PM
I’m sorry but I don’t see the difference you claim is there. Is this another psychosomatic effect similar to the difference audiophiles claim to hear between different speaker wires?

1.2.2) Nasim Mansurov
JULY 25, 2017 AT 10:25 PM
Tom, when I was buying high-end speakers for my basement, the seller at Best Buy tried to sell me power cables for $300 each and tried to assure me that I would be immediately able to hear differences. They were simply higher-gauge cables that looked pretty! So I went on Amazon, bought a higher gauge cable for 1/10th of the price and called it a day. The same goes for speaker wire – I could have spent as much money as my whole basement remodeling cost me on just speaker wires, which is ridiculous!

If someone has amazingly sensitive ears that can hear a difference, good for them. But I won’t be spending my hard earned money on this foolishness.

跟音频玄学是一个调调

照片的立体感是有的，但是它来自各个方面，不是单一镜头决定的：
9.1.3.2) Nasim Mansurov
JULY 26, 2017 AT 2:38 AM
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What creates dimensionality in a photo is not how many lens elements there are in a lens. Light, form, subject, camera to subject distance, aperture, depth of field, camera to background distance, vignetting, composition, colors, saturation, framing, etc – these are some of the main reasons that add to depth or dimensionality in a photograph, not leaded glass vs non-leaded glass or the number of elements in a lens. It is the same discussion of photographer vs gear – those 12 inches behind the camera that truly matter. Is optical formula important? Yes, it is. Are color neutrality and microcontrast of a lens important? You bet. But these are not what make a photo. Unfortunately, some people believe in myths and make wrong choices as a result. We see it in practically every industry – from audiophiles who swear by expensive cables that supposedly make a huge difference in sound, to photographers who believe in magical properties of lenses. Interestingly, they also tend to use the same verbiage such as “depth”, “dimensionality” and “tones” to describe how one piece of gear is so superior compared to another. And yet when challenged to present evidence or scientific data to back up their claims, they struggle.
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[ 本帖最后由 jjx01 于 2017-11-30 09:22 编辑 ]

耳朵玄学最忌双盲测试，你跟他提双盲他把你枪毙，眼睛玄学也差不多……

决定照片质量的主要是光，光线恶劣，换什么镜头去拍都屎一样；光线优质，你拿德国镜头去拍了高呼德味，其实要是换其他设备结果也差不多……

所以，平时我们几乎见不到德味玄学者做同一条件下同级别不同设备的face to face对比测试，因为往往都是见光死……

高贵的Leica镜头，更是别提face to face对比了，不狠狠后期一番都不好意思发出来……“原来这就是徕卡”实在是不能承受之重。

[ 本帖最后由 aso 于 2018-3-7 20:14 编辑 ]

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感觉氛围因人而异吧，成像素质还有量化的数据

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原帖由 aso 于 2018-3-7 20:12 发表
耳朵玄学最忌双盲测试，你跟他提双盲他把你枪毙，眼睛玄学也差不多……

决定照片质量的主要是光，光线恶劣，换什么镜头去拍都屎一样；光线优质，你拿德国镜头去拍了高呼德味，其实要是换其他设备结果也差不多…… ...

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光线好了什么都好说