谈视频的话要不要还算上网络视频的广告收入？

Youtube一年广告收入25亿美元，视频无料提供，比蓝光如何？

国内优酷今年收入都可以过一亿美元，比索尼在国内的收入如何？

有些傻逼青的脑子都僵住了，连他妈商业模式的转变也看不到了

今后是视频付费下载和免费+广告的天下，蓝光死一边去

再加一句，Netflix第三季度的收入是8.22亿美元，Hulu今年的收入也有望达到5亿美元，苹果iTunes视频内容下载收入今年约近10亿美元

蓝光在哪里？

[ 本帖最后由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 18:05 编辑 ]

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原帖由 killmesoftly 于 2011-10-27 15:34 发表



我觉得阁下本来那个说法就是对这个领域缺乏了解的充分体现

日本这个市场在DVD时代的普及速度就慢于美国，你那个所谓的“连日本都没普及那其他地方就别提”的论点本来就可笑

至今日本人仍有着VHS情节的残 ...

除非你能举出一个至今还出VHS但没出DVD的东西，否则你无法证明DVD失败，而现在，我起码证明了BD没有普及

美国 模拟低清电视信号09年才停

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原帖由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 17:53 发表
谈视频的话要不要还算上网络视频的广告收入？

Youtube一年广告收入25亿美元，视频无料提供，比蓝光如何？

国内优酷今年收入都可以过一亿美元，比索尼在国内的收入如何？

有些傻逼青的脑子都僵住了，连他妈商 ...

说的太好了，以后电影院也死一边去。

不过HD-DVD已经提前死到B里了。:D

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原帖由 hudihutian 于 2011-10-27 15:38 发表
电视机目前的FULL HD标准估计会延续10年以上，BD的未来还是挺光明的。

要说高清在线点播，日本有这个网络条件，不过消费习惯原始的东方人接受起来恐怕不容易，美国人可能容易接受，不过美国的网络条件一时半会也不 ...

喷了，当netflix和hulu是假的啊。。

什么时候UCG 电软 动心 动感 动漫贩 二次元XX 这类杂志都不送DVD改送BD了，这就证明BD在中国可以接班了

如果这些杂志还没有替换，意味着还没到BD真正普及的时候

netflix的成功我觉得与BD虽然会有一定的市场抢夺，但不代表今后BD就一定没市场啊，两者的市场不是百分之一百的重合的。

网络服务可以提供电影在线租赁观看，电视剧，电视节目以及原创视频，这些确实会对BD造成极大冲击，但网络也受到带宽的限制，起码在中国想普及起来就没人家这么方便。

网络服务（包括电视网和互联网）若想完全在线传递蓝光原盘的编码+true HD级的音轨，就算现在的美国也不敢说网速就普及到这程度了吧，高清视频在线倒是没问题，但音频再加进去压力估计就大了，韩国的那种网速估计还没问题。

BD则可以作为任何数据存储媒介存在，不会完全就没有市场的。

说过了，再不济也可以作为不重要的数据备份媒介，君不见在我朝某些军队里还用刻录碟来保存重要数据，甚至是军事数据(当然都是归档数据，军队采购东西费用奇高，花几十倍的价钱被层层剥削后只能用极贵的价钱买到很低档的东西，甚至有时候想更新个磁带库若没有采购名义都很头疼，再加上不能连接外网，自然就用这种方法对付了)...

不过若是网速和服务以及覆盖面继续完善的话，倒确实是一个很大的冲击。

另：中国的电视网也有高清节目，只不过看的人少，区域也受限制，互联网也有服务商提供高清视频在线，但我觉得现在限制其推广的主要还是带宽...所以现在国内的网络高清一般都是720P或者720P以下的视频且rip掉多声道。

[ 本帖最后由 tntforbrain 于 2011-10-28 00:18 编辑 ]

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原帖由 阿尔沙文 于 2011-10-27 23:56 发表
什么时候UCG 电软 动心 动感 动漫贩 二次元XX 这类杂志都不送DVD改送BD了，这就证明BD在中国可以接班了

如果这些杂志还没有替换，意味着还没到BD真正普及的时候

印象中2010年动感新势力还在出VCD版本，按照你的逻辑原来DVD都还没普及呢！

你家的电视机能netflix？

或者智能电视在北美普及了？

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原帖由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 17:53 发表
谈视频的话要不要还算上网络视频的广告收入？

Youtube一年广告收入25亿美元，视频无料提供，比蓝光如何？

国内优酷今年收入都可以过一亿美元，比索尼在国内的收入如何？

有些傻逼青的脑子都僵住了，连他妈商 ...

哇，把你这话稍微翻译下

你的意思是不是可以理解成电视台在N年前就秒杀影碟出售/租赁行业啊

太了不起了

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原帖由 来福士戴尔 于 2011-10-27 18:00 发表
再加一句，Netflix第三季度的收入是8.22亿美元，Hulu今年的收入也有望达到5亿美元，苹果iTunes视频内容下载收入今年约近10亿美元

蓝光在哪里？

我好心提醒你下

Netflix起家靠的是月费制DVD实体的租赁，到今天为止这项业务仍是公司收入的一个重要部分而不是全部靠流媒体，最近Netflix已经承认拆分DVD租赁用户的计划已经失败（股价跌了60%）

至于阁下吹的水果厂么，的确在北美Digital Download这块占有率优势很大，但是……

iTunes dominates digital movie sales
Apple gains market share despite increased competition


Apple's iTunes reasserted itself as the top seller of movies in the U.S. on digital platforms in the first half of the year, according to new research from IHS Screen Digest.
Even as more aggressive competitors pour into the space, iTunes ticked up after two consecutive years of declines. Apple commanded 65.8% of spending in the category, up from 64.9% in the first half of 2010.

Though also-ran services from Microsoft and Sony registered declines over the same period, Walmart's Vudu service also posted a gain on the strength of increased visibility from the retail giant's stores to a new iPad app.

That there's any growth at all in this category, which IHS focuses on digital services that handle streaming-rental or download-purchase transactions of the a la carte variety, is somewhat surprising given that the monthly subscription model epitomized by Netflix has captivated the industry.

An NPD Group study in February found that 61% of video streaming and downloading on the Internet in the U.S. belonged to Netflix, which doesn't even allow downloading. Apple was a distant third in a three-way tie with DirecTV and Time Warner Cable, all with 4%. Comcast finished second with 8%.

But even as its overall share of the digital-movie marketplace falls behind the dominant but declining DVD, surging Internet subscription VOD and cable/satellite VOD, a la carte entrants like iTunes and Vudu are finding there's still room to grow. Getting theatrical product day and date with homevideo release and positive user experiences may be key reasons why.

Though iTunes' .09% increase may not seem much, it's significant given Apple's market share dropped nearly 12 percentage points in the first half of 2010 vs. the same period in 2009.

IHS attributed iTunes' renewed dominance to a variety of factors, including the increasing popularity of the iPad and AirPlay, which connects iTunes with TVs.

Remaining a distant second is Microsoft's Zune Video Marketplace, which fell from a 18.5% share in 2010 to 16.2% in 2011. Jumping two places to No. 3 is Vudu, which showed the year-to-year gain, moving from 1% to 5.4%.

Walmart has been aggressive in its deployment of Vudu since acquiring it 19 months ago, broadening its footprint across connected devices and expanding its presence on the Web via its own website and Walmart.com.

Falling out of the third spot was Sony's PlayStation Store, which dropped from 8.2% to 4.4%. IHS chalked up the decline to both Vudu's growth and the hacking that disrupted Sony's service worldwide during that period.

Amazon sunk to fifth, having remained relatively flat at 4.2%. That number could potentially sink further as the company shifts gears from an a la carte offering to monthly subscription service Amazon Prime.

Some big names in this space that haven't made the list yet are Facebook and YouTube, which both introduced a la carte options earlier this year. There are still plenty more market entrants just beginning to get their feet wet in this space that have yet to amass marketshare, including Blockbuster, Best Buy and Sears.

One would-be entrant that still hasn't made up its mind as to how exactly to enter the market is Redbox, which has indicated a willingness to go digital but hasn't yet specified a gameplan. It could opt to go the SVOD route like Netflix, but its kiosk business has already accustomed its massive customer base to an a la carte model.

The figures take into account both rental (Internet VOD) and purchase (electronic sell through). IHS projects EST will deliver revenues of $247 million in 2011 versus $240 million for 2011. Combined, that $487 million will put the digital a la carte market for movies well ahead of its 2010 tally of $385 million.

While both sides of the digital business represented relatively even spending levels in the first half of 2011, IHS projects that iVOD will likely eclipse EST going forward as the rental model seems to have much more momentum in the digital marketplace. Regardless, both EST and iVOD together are still just a fraction of spending on DVDs, which may be in decline but are still dominant.

U.S. spending on discs in the first half of 2011 amounted to $3.87 billion, down 18.3%, according to the Digital Entertainment Group.

包括水果iTune的视频下载在内的整个Digital市场在2010年是3.85亿美元，2011年预测是4.87亿美元，好多啊，蓝光那20多亿的确不够看

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原帖由 lilit 于 2011-10-25 16:59 发表
BD比DVD和CD都耐操，这点我很满意

研发BD的时候，松下加入了DVD-RAM的特性