男人，并不是指故作沧桑、混迹于女人堆里的花花公子；更不是指胸毛飘飘、粗壮威猛的肌肉野人。真正的男人，通常平日里貌不惊人，为了家庭在默默地忍受和付出着，而一旦需要，可以为了家人奉献和牺牲一切！他们明确自己的责任，他们首先为他人考虑，他们对自己的信念有近乎顽固的执着——这，才叫真正的男人。

一个缩卵，
打印第安人的时候缩在后面，
在快要被ban干掉的刹那，
他终于撑不下去了，把事情的原委说出来



这片子如果是最后他死掉了然后由其他人来说真相，那才叫nb。
自己临时关头说出来~~

影评居然说这是真男人。我喷了。

我很早就在期待赶紧结束，趁信心没有完全摧毁前

今天总算看完了最近被誉为神片“老无所依 TO YUMA  gonebabygone”的三巨头的最后一部，感觉是不是自己智商变低了，不随众了。三部片没一部觉得好，

Although there's plenty of gunplay and death by bullets, this is much more of a psychological drama than anything else. Wade, as played coldly (but not charmlessly) by Crowe, has two goals in mind: gain the mental upper hand on Evans, an untrained rancher, and gain his escape from the clutches of law and order. Meanwhile, although Evans' intentions are less murky, he's not some squinty-eyed sharpshooter whose aim is always true; he's not an iconic hero who you just know is gonna save the day. Bale is terrific; you can really see the anguish he feels as a supposed failure in the eyes of his sons. In the hands of lesser actors, these two complex roles would have seemed less symbiotic and therefore less sincere. For example, apparently Movie Guy Tom Cruise was initially supposed to have Wade's role; if that had come to fruition, we would have been distracted by Movie Star Tom Cruise, and the movie would have suffered terribly as a result.

But despite the wonderful performances by Bale and Crowe, the movie's shortcoming is that Ben Wade's intentions seem rather inscrutable. I don't mean that they're simply ambiguous (is he going to flee or help the good guys fight off Navajo Indians?), I mean that they don't make much sense. One minute, Wade is all set to get away from Evans and escape to the safety of his gang, but in the next he's actually fending off his gang as it attacks Evans. There's no explanation given for this change of heart, but the new attitude is gone as quickly as it arrives, leaving the viewer a little puzzled. Sure, some may explain this as "Wade comes to respect Evans and so doesn't want to see the rancher killed," but Wade's actions were much more than that. He wasn't just trying to save Evans, you see, he was actively trying to knock off members of his own gang, and the reason for that escaped me completely



结合看看国外的影评。:D

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原帖由 風使い 于 2008-3-23 00:35 发表
男人，并不是指故作沧桑、混迹于女人堆里的花花公子；更不是指胸毛飘飘、粗壮威猛的肌肉野人。真正的男人，通常平日里貌不惊人，为了家庭在默默地忍受和付出着，而一旦需要，可以为了家人奉献和牺牲一切！他们明确自 ...

建议lz过10年，不，20年再回来挖:D

贝尔……

何时奥斯卡……:D

刺杀神枪手，好看吗？各位:D

ls的，偶看了，相当沉闷啊

奥斯卡的确一年不如一年了

杀自己兄弟 其实 Crowe 并不喜欢自己兄弟,  和一帮匪徒在一起, 自己如果不在之前杀死一命同伴 来树立自己的凶狠地位,很有可能被其他很凶的手下取代,所有他只能比他们更凶,  而且有时候也会出现手下不听话,  所以Crowe杀死目前的手下,就是保全自己,  自己以后可以在组建另一帮.

克劳和手下的关系，要是琢磨救不难理解。
只不过电影本身这帮手下玩命救他忠心耿耿的细节表现很多，弄的结尾那一下不太容易被接受……
观众看片，甚至都可以理解查理公主是个人品超高超忠心没任何问题的副手，就那么被干掉感情上不好转变……确实很冤啊，老大您要是有保贝尔的意思就先说一声啊……

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原帖由 jinwyp 于 2008-3-24 12:29 发表
奥斯卡的确一年不如一年了

杀自己兄弟 其实 Crowe 并不喜欢自己兄弟,  和一帮匪徒在一起, 自己如果不在之前杀死一命同伴 来树立自己的凶狠地位,很有可能被其他很凶的手下取代,所有他只能比他们更凶,  而且有时候也 ...

说得好！其实crowe和手下并没有啥感情。乌合之众。

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原帖由 guycc 于 2008-3-24 13:02 发表
克劳和手下的关系，要是琢磨救不难理解。
只不过电影本身这帮手下玩命救他忠心耿耿的细节表现很多，弄的结尾那一下不太容易被接受……
观众看片，甚至都可以理解查理公主是个人品超高超忠心没任何问题的副手，就那 ...

他说一声保他不难，但会遭到手下的质疑，地位就不保咯～

确实是，他们之间的关系从本身来说，发生结尾那种事情不算奇怪～

但是就是那群人，特别是以查理公主为首，整个电影里保克劳忠克劳的情节描写的有点多了，可能不少观众都会觉得这个二当家相当的不错了……这样才导致有些观众会对结尾的观感比较突兀……

电影很好看，贝尔永远的高水准。
但是毕竟不算是完美处理的完美电影～

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原帖由 clark99 于 2008-3-24 11:43 发表
ls的，偶看了，相当沉闷啊

:D 是吗，下了种子一直放着。。。。

商业角度说确认很沉闷……

再扯淡点说，就算故事这样了，也能拍的不沉闷……但是导演刻意拍的很沉闷，特别是前半……
不过坚持到结尾就好看到爆了～前一半其实还是有点技术问题的……